Did I get this wrong? (Video for comment)

Did I get this wrong? (Video for comment)

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Munter

Original Poster:

31,326 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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So this is me driving. At 3:30 (link should take you directly there) I stop to leave a junction clear despite a green light. As the traffic ahead of me moves on I also want to move. But I still have traffic crossing in front of me. There doesn't appear to be an obvious way to say "Hang on guys I have right of way". So should I just block the junction next time?

http://youtu.be/13TtIj6L7xY?t=3m30s

(You can comment on the rest of the video if you really desire but it's not very interesting.) wink

BorkFactor

7,271 posts

164 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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What you did is pretty much what I would have done.

A similar thing happened to me a while ago, and ever since I have always moved off much more slowly and been wary of someone not realising that I have right of way.

R0G

4,997 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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PERFECT - no more to say really


timbob

2,147 posts

258 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Nice, and (IMO) just the right degree of assertiveness in taking your right of way once the traffic started moving off again ahead of you.

Munter

Original Poster:

31,326 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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R0G said:
PERFECT - no more to say really
Thanks very much. smile

It just felt like I'd created a situation where "conflict" could happen. Blocking it would have avoided that, but would be against other rules (like not blocking junctions for no good reason).

R0G

4,997 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Munter said:
Thanks very much. smile

It just felt like I'd created a situation where "conflict" could happen. Blocking it would have avoided that, but would be against other rules (like not blocking junctions for no good reason).
The only problem might have been if that had been the outer lane and traffic was still free flowing on the blind inner lane but I would still have done the same along with my hand near the hooter - just in case...

R0G

4,997 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Munter said:
That would make a good training video for that situation

andym1603

1,838 posts

178 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Think you got that pretty much spot on. You could not clear the junction so waited until
you could cross it without blocking it in any way.

Benbay001

5,807 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Was just about to say (cue saying it anyway), "what was wrong with that? Near textbook, wasnt it?"

Munter

Original Poster:

31,326 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Sounds ok then. Great. smile

However driving god I am not. hehe
http://youtu.be/23WM1UDtPpE

I had plenty of time to leave more space there. boxedin

In my defence I'm not an advanced driver. I just hang about in here to try and absorb more than contribute.

Benbay001

5,807 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Munter said:
Sounds ok then. Great. smile

However driving god I am not. hehe
http://youtu.be/23WM1UDtPpE

I had plenty of time to leave more space there. boxedin

In my defence I'm not an advanced driver. I just hang about in here to try and absorb more than contribute.
If thats the worst youve done, i will worship you.

R0G

4,997 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Munter said:
However driving god I am not. hehe
http://youtu.be/23WM1UDtPpE

I had plenty of time to leave more space there. boxedin

In my defence I'm not an advanced driver. I just hang about in here to try and absorb more than contribute.
You dont have to be an advanced driver to realise how you could have done it safer and then not do the same sort of thing again - just a good driver who learns well

Syd knee

3,073 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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The only mistake you made was driving through that part of Taunton.

carreauchompeur

17,965 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Beat me to it, I was just about to screech "Taunton!". As the others have said, perfect.

Synchromesh

2,428 posts

172 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Watching the whole of the video, was there any reason why you didn't use lane 2 in order to make better progress (through intelligent lane choice)?

However, judging by the fact you're using Sat-Nav perhaps you didn't know the area in which case fair enough.

Munter

Original Poster:

31,326 posts

247 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Synchromesh said:
Watching the whole of the video, was there any reason why you didn't use lane 2 in order to make better progress (through intelligent lane choice)?

However, judging by the fact you're using Sat-Nav perhaps you didn't know the area in which case fair enough.
Unfortunately I know it well enough to avoid lane 2. Lane 2 eventually turns into a right turn and straight on lane. Problem is after that it pinches down to just 1 lane. The upshot is that if you want to go straight on you get stuck behind people turning right, and then people in the left lane play the "I'm not letting you in" game when you need to merge into one lane at the exit of the junction. Far easier to just sit in the left lane and relax.

Sat nav is on to let me know traffic conditions so I know if I'm going to be late and or plot a new route.

7db

6,058 posts

236 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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If you are on the major road but stationary, doesn't moving traffic crossing your path (and already over its giveway line) have priority when you wish to move off -- even if the way ahead is clear?

Just asking as priority isn't necessary as obvious once you have stopped as when you are moving.

R0G

4,997 posts

161 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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7db said:
If you are on the major road but stationary, doesn't moving traffic crossing your path (and already over its giveway line) have priority when you wish to move off -- even if the way ahead is clear?

Just asking as priority isn't necessary as obvious once you have stopped as when you are moving.
interesting one

The traffic turning right is only being allowed to do so because you have temporarily given up your right to proceed however to then deploy your right must not cause an incident

7db

6,058 posts

236 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Notice that your priority (on the major road) is to remain on the same course at the same speed (stationary). The crossing traffic mustn't make you change course or speed to prevent an accident when it crosses the give-way line. It doesn't.

Zeeky

2,925 posts

218 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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The OP gives way to the turning traffic as he starts to move forward. The only traffic that is prevented from turning is the traffic already behind the stop line when the OP starts moving. The cyclist was pushing his luck by not giving way to the OP. I am not sure what more the OP could be expected to do in this situation.