Another roundabout question
Discussion
Interesting.
If most people usually line up in lane 1 to go from A to C, is it fine for a driver to drive to the front of the queue in lane 2 and then straight-line the roundabout to exit at C?
I see this about once a week and it nearly causes an accident each time as people don't expect it.
If most people usually line up in lane 1 to go from A to C, is it fine for a driver to drive to the front of the queue in lane 2 and then straight-line the roundabout to exit at C?
I see this about once a week and it nearly causes an accident each time as people don't expect it.
It always seems to be someone in a rush. They seem to queue in lane 1 for a few seconds, then decide to fly to the front in lane 2. Set off quickly in lane 2 (along side someone in lane 1) then "swerve" in front of the person in lane 1 to reach the exit and to get past 2 or 3 cars.
Seems very dangerous to me for the benefit gained.
I would only take that route if exit C had 2 lanes. Sounds like they are technically within their rights to take that line though.
Seems very dangerous to me for the benefit gained.
I would only take that route if exit C had 2 lanes. Sounds like they are technically within their rights to take that line though.
FreeLitres said:
If you find yourself in lane 1 and just about to exit at C when someone along side you decides to swerve in and try and take your front wing off, what do you do?
If you want to go exit B lane 1, if you want to go exit C either & merge in turn, if you want to go exit D lane 2 is best (IMHO).FreeLitres said:
If you find yourself in lane 1 and just about to exit at C when someone along side you decides to swerve in and try and take your front wing off, what do you do?
You should ask yourself "Why is someone alongside me?" Clearly they could be taking the same exit, so you plan to merge behind them well before they are forced to swerve and try and take your front wing off.blueg33 said:
This is what the Highway Code says
This implies use the left hand lane to go straight on even if there are two lanes on the approach and two on the exit. The only time this is different is if there are lane markings advising so.
I know this is pedantic but that's what is shown to support rule 185. Rule 186 covers positioning. And simply talks about "appropriate". Without say what lanes are appropriate.This implies use the left hand lane to go straight on even if there are two lanes on the approach and two on the exit. The only time this is different is if there are lane markings advising so.
Highway Code said:
186
Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave
When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.
Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave
When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.
Munter said:
blueg33 said:
This is what the Highway Code says
This implies use the left hand lane to go straight on even if there are two lanes on the approach and two on the exit. The only time this is different is if there are lane markings advising so.
I know this is pedantic but that's what is shown to support rule 185. Rule 186 covers positioning. And simply talks about "appropriate". Without say what lanes are appropriate.This implies use the left hand lane to go straight on even if there are two lanes on the approach and two on the exit. The only time this is different is if there are lane markings advising so.
Highway Code said:
186
Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave
When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.
Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave
When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.
In the car i would use either, although I agree with the comments above, that this runs the risk of maybe having to cut across someone.
On the motorbike, I would always take lane two - in order to straight-line the roundabout as much as possible - because a bike is most stable in a straight line.
On the motorbike, I would always take lane two - in order to straight-line the roundabout as much as possible - because a bike is most stable in a straight line.
From point A I bet the sign is similar to this:
If the sign is at 12 or less then use left lane. Past 12 then is't a right turn needing a right signal and position.
This is only different when road markings indicate otherwise.
If the sign is as above I would definitely teach left lane for straight ahead on YOUR roundabout.
If the sign is at 12 or less then use left lane. Past 12 then is't a right turn needing a right signal and position.
This is only different when road markings indicate otherwise.
If the sign is as above I would definitely teach left lane for straight ahead on YOUR roundabout.
Edited by blunder13 on Thursday 5th January 13:26
Edited by blunder13 on Thursday 5th January 13:35
trashbat said:
Incidentally, on the pushbike, I often use lane 2 to avoid being hit by inattentive drivers taking exit B as I'm crossing it. I find that the balance of this versus the danger I'll be passed on my left (rare) makes it the safer choice. In all scenarios I'm in primary position.
I always did it different - keep right arm out and stay on the left - never had a problemblunder13 said:
Incidentally, road marking on the approach now are:
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