Your lights at roadworks.

Your lights at roadworks.

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Changedmyname

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12,545 posts

187 months

Thursday 1st December 2011
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Driving home there are some roadworks,with traffic lights, they where on red (my luck as aways)
When I stopped I always turn my lights to sidelights so that oncomming traffic don't get blinded via mine,I have always done this ,but no-one have ever done it when it was my turn.
Any-one do this or is it just me?

matt-ITR

892 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st December 2011
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If your dipped are correctly adjusted then you wouldn't need to go to sidelights.

Gene Vincent

4,002 posts

164 months

Thursday 1st December 2011
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I do, it is good manners. I also had an old Alfa with a dickie alternator and actively looked for reasons to conserve the battery years ago. I also don't flash a thankyou at night in the lanes around here but momentarily switch the headlights off as flashing is wrong in my opinion.

it'll never catch on though, we are still in a small minority, sadly.

ATTAK Z

12,478 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st December 2011
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I do it too

Changedmyname

Original Poster:

12,545 posts

187 months

Thursday 1st December 2011
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matt-ITR said:
If your dipped are correctly adjusted then you wouldn't need to go to sidelights.
Well on that comment ,what I haved noticed that not everybody likes to drive at night,and therefore tend to be a little more cautious.

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

192 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I wouldn't do it at junctions , traffic lights or roadworks where I am stopped in the normal position on the left , although I do apply the handbrake and take my foot off the footbrake to avoid dazzling drivers behind . I have never perceived it as a problem , other than from drivers with misaligned headlamps who are a nuisance at all times anyway .

One place I do do it though is outside my house : if I approach from the West such that my house is on the right hand side of the road , I cross to the hard standing in front of my house before reversing into the drive . If I am stopped at night on the 'wrong' side of the road , the asymmetric part of my beam could bother oncoming drivers , so I drop to sidelights as soon as I stop .

Trefy5

459 posts

158 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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matt-ITR said:
If your dipped are correctly adjusted then you wouldn't need to go to sidelights.
so why do we have beam deflectors whilst driving on the Continent?

i do it mostly - but especially when the open lane is my side of the road
I have nothing to gain by keeping my lights on beam and others do gain from improved forward vision when coming directly at me

smile

marshalla

15,902 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Trefy5 said:
so why do we have beam deflectors whilst driving on the Continent?
Because the "dip" is designed to deflect light away from oncoming traffic and up onto pedestrians & road furniture on your nearside so you can see them more clearly.

When you drive on the "wrong" side of the road, the area kicked up would shine directly into oncoming traffic so the beam deflector cuts off the area of the lens/reflector which does this.

218g

417 posts

165 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Changedmyname said:
Any-one do this or is it just me?
Can't say I've ever done it, nor ever felt that the headlights of the car facing me are a problem when it's my turn to go through the roadworks.

But it seems from some of the responses that you're not the only one who does this. Next time I'm driving through roadworks in the dark, I'll try and remember to think about whether sidelights instead of headlights on the car facing me would help.

Fastra

4,277 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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218g said:
Changedmyname said:
Any-one do this or is it just me?
Can't say I've ever done it, nor ever felt that the headlights of the car facing me are a problem when it's my turn to go through the roadworks.

But it seems from some of the responses that you're not the only one who does this. Next time I'm driving through roadworks in the dark, I'll try and remember to think about whether sidelights instead of headlights on the car facing me would help.
Me neither, and can't say I've ever noticed anyone else doing so too.
Slightly puzzled as to why you might do it though, as mentioned already, if your lights are adjusted properly then it's no different than any other situation where you might pass each other on closely.

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ATTAK Z

12,478 posts

195 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Fastra said:
Me neither, and can't say I've ever noticed anyone else doing so too.
Slightly puzzled as to why you might do it though, as mentioned already, if your lights are adjusted properly then it's no different than any other situation where you might pass each other on closely.

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OK here's the difference

you're on a single carriage way travelling north

there are roadworks on the southbound side of the road

you have stopped at the red light and oncoming traffic is travelling south directly towards you on the same side of the road as you

your lights are on dipped beam which lights up the road directly ahead (and the side of the road to your left)

because oncoming traffic is in your lane, your lights are shining directly at the driver of the moving vehicle

HTH

SWITCH TO SIDELIGHTS ... you know it makes sense

Fastra

4,277 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Ahhh, now I get you. smile

... and no, can't say I've ever done it - I shall give it my full consideration though.

However I have done it when Emergency vehicles are approaching at 130mph, and I've though they it might help them see a bit better.

BertBert

19,539 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Nope. I do not want to do this. It is uneccessary and detrimental especially if you have cars behind you with headlights on.

You are likely to confuse the driver coming towards you and sidelights are not very good at showing your position. So far from being better, you are compromised.

Bert

ATTAK Z

12,478 posts

195 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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BertBert said:
Nope. I do not want to do this. It is uneccessary and detrimental especially if you have cars behind you with headlights on.

You are likely to confuse the driver coming towards you and sidelights are not very good at showing your position. So far from being better, you are compromised.

Bert
WrongWrong BertBert

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

192 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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BertBert said:
Nope. I do not want to do this. It is uneccessary and detrimental especially if you have cars behind you with headlights on.

You are likely to confuse the driver coming towards you and sidelights are not very good at showing your position. So far from being better, you are compromised.

Bert
I agree with Bert .

Unless you are on the 'wrong' side of the road , with opposing traffic to your left , the asymmetric part of your beam won't affect anyone ; the rest of your beam will be no worse than at any other time .

As already said , if you switch to sidelights and others behind you remain on headlamps , there is a danger of oncoming traffic not seeing you AND HITTING YOU .

Oh , and outside built up areas , where there is no street lighting , you MUST use dipped headlamps at night ( stopped at traffic lights does not count as being parked ) , so if someone hits you , you could be charged with failing to display the proper lights .

HTH

Benbay001

5,807 posts

163 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I have never heard of this, and have never been dazzled by other cars at roadworks. Hmm..

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

194 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Pontoneer said:
BertBert said:
Nope. I do not want to do this. It is uneccessary and detrimental especially if you have cars behind you with headlights on.

You are likely to confuse the driver coming towards you and sidelights are not very good at showing your position. So far from being better, you are compromised.

Bert
I agree with Bert .

Unless you are on the 'wrong' side of the road , with opposing traffic to your left , the asymmetric part of your beam won't affect anyone ; the rest of your beam will be no worse than at any other time .

As already said , if you switch to sidelights and others behind you remain on headlamps , there is a danger of oncoming traffic not seeing you AND HITTING YOU .

Oh , and outside built up areas , where there is no street lighting , you MUST use dipped headlamps at night ( stopped at traffic lights does not count as being parked ) , so if someone hits you , you could be charged with failing to display the proper lights .

HTH
I agree with these two

Changedmyname

Original Poster:

12,545 posts

187 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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BertBert said:
Nope. I do not want to do this. It is uneccessary and detrimental especially if you have cars behind you with headlights on.

You are likely to confuse the driver coming towards you and sidelights are not very good at showing your position. So far from being better, you are compromised.

Bert
You must have rubbish sidelights then biglaugh
Ok you are unable to see the sence in this....fair enough.

218g

417 posts

165 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Changedmyname said:
You must have rubbish sidelights then biglaugh
To be fair, most sidelights are rubbish these days.

nevbadger

56 posts

223 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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The point about putting your handbrake on and taking your foot off the brakes was a good one - that really does cut down the mass of red shining right into the eyes of the driver behind.