A safe overtake??

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monthefish

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20,453 posts

237 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012h7cv/Traf...

Watch from about 7:00 onwards - overtake is at 7:25.

You can see that both the Green mondeo and the oncoming fiesta have to brake quite sharply to allow the police car back in.
It is my opinion that if the Fiesta hadn't braked sharply, the police car would have had nowhere to go, and there would have been a collision.

Was it safe?

Hooli

32,278 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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monthefish said:
Was it safe?
Looked crap to me, with that appearing to be a semi-blind bend due to the parked cars I bet plod hadn't even seen the fiesta/focus until they'd pulled out.

Neil.D

2,878 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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He could have pulled out just after the crossing but it wasnt unsafe in essence. If he hadnt put his brakes on and slowed to enforce the stop of the Mondeo he would have been back on his side of the road with ample time.

The overtake could have been timed a little earlier but it wasnt and the Fiesta had to brake but nevermind, people are always having to brake when a Police car is on their side of the road. A daily occurence.


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Bit tight. If plod spotted you doing that, you'd be in a spot of bother.

This kind of thing is rather annoying. People get done for failing to be in control if taking a drink/eating a Kitkat, but I have a clip of an unmarked police Impreza at high speed through a housing estate, one hand on the gear lever and one hand on a microphone.

Edited by mybrainhurts on Wednesday 13th July 17:17

monthefish

Original Poster:

20,453 posts

237 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
Bit tight. If plod spotted you doing that, you'd be in a spot of bother.
laugh I'll say.

Can you imagine it was your good self overtaking and the plod were the oncoming fiesta...

skodamanpat

367 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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More interested in being TV stars.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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monthefish said:
mybrainhurts said:
Bit tight. If plod spotted you doing that, you'd be in a spot of bother.
laugh I'll say.

Can you imagine it was your good self overtaking and the plod were the oncoming fiesta...
'Ello, 'ello, 'ello...

Doesn't bear thinking about...hehe

R0G

4,997 posts

161 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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the front end of the oncoming car did not seem to indicate harsh braking but perhaps that is me not seeing it correctly as I have issues with seeing 3D on 2D

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

237 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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I was expecting a lot worse than that TBH.
The Mondeo driver is on the brake during the entire overtake and I disagree that either driver had to brake sharply.
Seen far worse...

dumpster

22 posts

159 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Well wasn't he overtaking to carry out a stop on the vehicle, turning his blue lights on part way past to not alert the mondeo. Maybe the difference between a well executed stop preventing the need for a pursuit? Didn't really seem to cause any problems.

Gareth

Neil.D

2,878 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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dumpster said:
Well wasn't he overtaking to carry out a stop on the vehicle, turning his blue lights on part way past to not alert the mondeo. Maybe the difference between a well executed stop preventing the need for a pursuit? Didn't really seem to cause any problems.

Gareth
Pretty much. Its an enforced stop, not an 'advanced' overtake and as such have to be quick, decisive and dont always look pretty.


dumpster

22 posts

159 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Blimey,

Don't you guys like bashing the Police!
Shame some of you guys don't have video cameras in your cars so everyone here can have a look and tell you what they think!
I think there just doing their job!

Gareth

carreauchompeur

17,965 posts

210 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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I have to say, I'm in the job and it wasn't ideal, however it was a dynamic situation and nobody actually lost a bk... Speeds weren't massive either.

Neil.D

2,878 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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dumpster said:
Blimey,

Don't you guys like bashing the Police!
Shame some of you guys don't have video cameras in your cars so everyone here can have a look and tell you what they think!
I think there just doing their job!

Gareth
Geeze thats nothing, have a look at the nobheads in the SP&L forum.

carreauchompeur said:
I have to say, I'm in the job and it wasn't ideal, however it was a dynamic situation and nobody actually lost a bk... Speeds weren't massive either.
Ditto.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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carreauchompeur said:
I have to say, I'm in the job and it wasn't ideal, however it was a dynamic situation and nobody actually lost a bk... Speeds weren't massive either.
I'll carry that clip with me in case I get pulled for such a dodgy manoeuvre, then. PC Reasonable will have no choice but to let me off when he sees it.

AT

23,956 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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I'm lost for words- dangerous as anything. It's a shame some plod even try and defend this kind of thing. Guess I'll see you on traffic cops.

ETA: I'm 27 and have now got over my nobhead driving stage, but lots of younger people will watch that and think that kind of thing acceptable.

Edited by AT on Thursday 14th July 01:41

AT

23,956 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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carreauchompeur said:
I have to say, I'm in the job and it wasn't ideal, however it was a dynamic situation and nobody actually lost a bk... Speeds weren't massive either.
Well my driving to work is also "dynamic", and nobody has "lost a bk". I'm very surprised at the responses posted here sometimes.

Hooli

32,278 posts

206 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
but I have a clip of an unmarked police Impreza at high speed through a housing estate, one hand on the gear lever and one hand on a microphone.
I never got rammed off the road once by a blue lighting plod changing gear & talking on the radio mid roundabout - oddly enough he couldn't steer at the time. What I've never understood is why the passenger wasn't talking on the radio for them, surely they were going to the same job?

ScoobyChris

1,782 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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AT said:
ETA: I'm 27 and have now got over my nobhead driving stage, but lots of younger people will watch that and think that kind of thing acceptable.
Performing a stop on a vehicle?

Chris

monthefish

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237 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Bacon Is Proof said:
I was expecting a lot worse than that TBH.
The Mondeo driver is on the brake during the entire overtake and I disagree that either driver had to brake sharply.
The Fiesta certainly does - watch the nose dip.


Bacon Is Proof said:
Seen far worse...
That doesn't really help plods case..
smile