Snooper Indago
Discussion
I'm deciding whether to go for this at the moment, vs the NavMan iCN550TM, or perhaps something else, as having looked through the options its a difficult choice...
I can get the Indago for £350 with an MPH05 discount voucher and trading up from my Road Angel 2, while the best price I've seen for the iCN550TM is around £529.
But the thing that puts me off the Indago are the prices of the European maps, which are due 1st quarter next year, but will cost a whopping £199! Bringing the TCO up to £549 as well as the monthly subscription (£4.95) after the initial six months free period. OK the data quality should be better with the Engima database, but you are paying £60 a year for it after all so expect it to be good.
The NavMan includes the European maps, but is a darned ugly box of tricks and gives me the distinct impression of being rushed to market to be the first out there - so perhaps waiting for the 2nd generation TMC units from them would be wise...
Garmin are doing TMC receivers also now, the StreetPilot C340 includes European mapping for around £525, but the TMC receiver is an additional £159, which is a little steep, although in my experience Garmin kit is very well made.
The other option is TomTom, the GO 700 includes European mapping and can be had for £439, it does traffic news, although using a GPRS subscription rather than the free-to-air TMC signals at €59.95 per year for UK or €79.99 for the whole of Europe, and GPRS charges on top of that.
Using the PocketGPSWorld POIs will give all the camera locations, although TomTom do a service for that now too, at €69 a year for the UK.
As a bonus it also acts as a Bluetooth hands-free unit for legal phone calls, so does seem to have it all covered.
Decisions decisions... Any advice out there?
I can get the Indago for £350 with an MPH05 discount voucher and trading up from my Road Angel 2, while the best price I've seen for the iCN550TM is around £529.
But the thing that puts me off the Indago are the prices of the European maps, which are due 1st quarter next year, but will cost a whopping £199! Bringing the TCO up to £549 as well as the monthly subscription (£4.95) after the initial six months free period. OK the data quality should be better with the Engima database, but you are paying £60 a year for it after all so expect it to be good.
The NavMan includes the European maps, but is a darned ugly box of tricks and gives me the distinct impression of being rushed to market to be the first out there - so perhaps waiting for the 2nd generation TMC units from them would be wise...
Garmin are doing TMC receivers also now, the StreetPilot C340 includes European mapping for around £525, but the TMC receiver is an additional £159, which is a little steep, although in my experience Garmin kit is very well made.
The other option is TomTom, the GO 700 includes European mapping and can be had for £439, it does traffic news, although using a GPRS subscription rather than the free-to-air TMC signals at €59.95 per year for UK or €79.99 for the whole of Europe, and GPRS charges on top of that.
Using the PocketGPSWorld POIs will give all the camera locations, although TomTom do a service for that now too, at €69 a year for the UK.
As a bonus it also acts as a Bluetooth hands-free unit for legal phone calls, so does seem to have it all covered.
Decisions decisions... Any advice out there?
Hi,
I've had the Snooper Indago for about a week now and have to say it is by far and away the best sat nav unit I have ever used. Its routing is excellent and its speed camera data base is very comprehensive. Its also nice and small so you can just slip it into your pocket but it feels substantial, like there is quality there. On the other hand I do not need the euro map pack so didnt have to shell out the extral hundred notes.
Big fan here. If you need any advice let me know but from my experience this was posted over a week ago so you probably have a ststem by now.
I've had the Snooper Indago for about a week now and have to say it is by far and away the best sat nav unit I have ever used. Its routing is excellent and its speed camera data base is very comprehensive. Its also nice and small so you can just slip it into your pocket but it feels substantial, like there is quality there. On the other hand I do not need the euro map pack so didnt have to shell out the extral hundred notes.
Big fan here. If you need any advice let me know but from my experience this was posted over a week ago so you probably have a ststem by now.
treefidi said:Thanks for that, good to hear its a good as they say, it certainly looks the business.
Big fan here. If you need any advice let me know but from my experience this was posted over a week ago so you probably have a ststem by now.
Still deciding what to do (Christmas beers, the new iPod Video and rear tyres took priority
), but am erring towards the TomTom 700 instead, as I can get it for £390 compared to the £350 I can get the Indago for, that includes the European mapping and also has traffic avoidance which I'm really keen to have.ICSD said:The £250 I would save was made up of a £50 discount from MPH05 (but probably not valid now) and a £200 trade-in from my Road Angel 2, so really the price was still £550, which I imagine can be beaten elsewhere.
Old thread I know, but I quite fancy one of these and Tripps mentioned an MPH05 discount voucher which seems to save a fortune over the current price of these.
Tripps said:
Old thread I know, but I quite fancy one of these and Tripps mentioned an MPH05 discount voucher which seems to save a fortune over the current price of these.
OK thanks.
Price seems to be £599 everywhere at the moment unless anyone knows different. I may still go for the TT700 and their subscription database yet as the unit is much cheaper.
ICSD said:Also bear in mind the European maps are an extra £199 for the Indago, whereas they're included in the 700.
I may still go for the TT700 and their subscription database yet as the unit is much cheaper.
Best price at the moment for the 700 is £399.99, at £599 plus £199 for the Indago, its twice the cost!
Saying that, I'm going to check out the Garmin equivalent to see what that's like as I'm concerned about the reliability of TomTom hardware, also Garmin now have an traffic signal receiver that picks up the free-to-air traffic signals (that TomTom charge you to receive via GPRS), so it would be a completely subscription free device.
Tripps said:
I may still go for the TT700 and their subscription database yet as the unit is much cheaper.
Best price at the moment for the 700 is £399.99, at £599 plus £199 for the Indago, its twice the cost!
Saying that, I'm going to check out the Garmin equivalent to see what that's like as I'm concerned about the reliability of TomTom hardware, also Garmin now have an traffic signal receiver that picks up the free-to-air traffic signals (that TomTom charge you to receive via GPRS), so it would be a completely subscription free device.
Trouble is that the likes of Navman and Garmin rely on a free camera database that fills me with less confidence than a subscription one - which is why the Indago/RA Nav appeal. And now that TT have one too it makes them a contender.
ICSD said:I did feel the same way, I always prefer (in life) to be paying for something, as hopefully someone is earning it (and you can complain if they aren't), in this case by keeping the camera site datas up-to-date. My old Origin blue-i I found to be good, but the data quality on the RA2 wasn't that good at all, for example a camera that was taken away 18 months ago near my house still shows up on it.
Trouble is that the likes of Navman and Garmin rely on a free camera database that fills me with less confidence than a subscription one - which is why the Indago/RA Nav appeal. And now that TT have one too it makes them a contender.
However PocketGPSWorld from what I can gather now have a member of staff full-time looking at the camera sites and are looking at a (cheap) subscription model. I'll keep watching the mine though to see how good the data is.
What you want does also depend on your main requirements for the box, for me it is 3D SatNav - for seeing the road ahead and getting me home from a hooning session, the camera warnings are useful for when I'm visiting unknown areas, but I'm also likely to be using SatNav then if I'm on my own in the car.
I must say though I'd have had the Indago, its a great looking piece of kit, it was just the additional premium for the European maps that did it, as after all it's just a bespoke SatNav box with some extra camera software, their data subscription is only £50 a year, so how they can justify £200 over the RRP of the TomTom 700 (£600 vs £800 for Indago including maps) gets me. If it was £400 without the Euro maps and £600 with it would be a lot better, as they get their subscription from you over the long run too.
Tripps said:
Trouble is that the likes of Navman and Garmin rely on a free camera database that fills me with less confidence than a subscription one - which is why the Indago/RA Nav appeal. And now that TT have one too it makes them a contender.
However PocketGPSWorld from what I can gather now have a member of staff full-time looking at the camera sites and are looking at a (cheap) subscription model. I'll keep watching the mine though to see how good the data is.
What you want does also depend on your main requirements for the box, for me it is 3D SatNav - for seeing the road ahead and getting me home from a hooning session, the camera warnings are useful for when I'm visiting unknown areas, but I'm also likely to be using SatNav then if I'm on my own in the car.
I must say though I'd have had the Indago, its a great looking piece of kit, it was just the additional premium for the European maps that did it, as after all it's just a bespoke SatNav box with some extra camera software, their data subscription is only £50 a year, so how they can justify £200 over the RRP of the TomTom 700 (£600 vs £800 for Indago including maps) gets me. If it was £400 without the Euro maps and £600 with it would be a lot better, as they get their subscription from you over the long run too.
Cameras & Sat Nav have equal standing for me with possible addition of traffic if possible. I'm currently on an Origin B2 which is great but I want the Sat Nav so I'm going to sell the Origin and move up.
I can't understand why Origin aren't getting into the other stuff - seems very short sighted.
E-mail just sent to Snooper:-
"I'm interested in a Sat Nav/Speed Camera location system and the choice seems to be Tom Tom Go 700 (£414), Road Angel Navigator (£499) and Snooper Indago(£599).
The Indago seems to be the best product but not by nearly £200, especially when the Tom Tom comes with European mapping.
Will you be reducing the cost in line with your competitors soon or should I go for the Tom Tom?"
I'll let you know how I get on!! Well - don't ask, don't get!
"I'm interested in a Sat Nav/Speed Camera location system and the choice seems to be Tom Tom Go 700 (£414), Road Angel Navigator (£499) and Snooper Indago(£599).
The Indago seems to be the best product but not by nearly £200, especially when the Tom Tom comes with European mapping.
Will you be reducing the cost in line with your competitors soon or should I go for the Tom Tom?"
I'll let you know how I get on!! Well - don't ask, don't get!
ICSD said:
"I'm interested in a Sat Nav/Speed Camera location system and the choice seems to be Tom Tom Go 700 (£414), Road Angel Navigator (£499) and Snooper Indago(£599).
The Indago seems to be the best product but not by nearly £200, especially when the Tom Tom comes with European mapping.
Will you be reducing the cost in line with your competitors soon or should I go for the Tom Tom?"
Good luck that man!You all seem to know what you are talking about - what's wrong with this kind of thing:
www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/TomTom_GO/BLUEMEDIA_BM6380_SAT_NAV_EUROPEAN_WITH_SPEED_CAMERA_LOCATOR.html
(or http://tinyurl.com/bkel9)
Its cheaper sister the BM6300 has 3D, Postcode (though only 4 character), 3.5" screen and European maps for £300 with Speed Camera updates for £30 / year.
Maybe they are rubbish, but that is a heck of a lot less that Indago with European maps, which is what you have persuaded me I want (if money no object).
Thanks in advance.
www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/TomTom_GO/BLUEMEDIA_BM6380_SAT_NAV_EUROPEAN_WITH_SPEED_CAMERA_LOCATOR.html
(or http://tinyurl.com/bkel9)
Its cheaper sister the BM6300 has 3D, Postcode (though only 4 character), 3.5" screen and European maps for £300 with Speed Camera updates for £30 / year.
Maybe they are rubbish, but that is a heck of a lot less that Indago with European maps, which is what you have persuaded me I want (if money no object).
Thanks in advance.
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