Amp clipping since new head unit fitted
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I recently replaced a 20 year old Alpine head unit with a Sony carplay. This is running through the existing uprated speakers and sub, via a 6 channel Denon amp. I'm experiencing clipping at fairly loud, but not ear splitting volume. The car isn't the quietest thing in the world ( Evo ), so obviously the volume needs to be up a bit more than some other things I own.
I've never experienced this before and wondered if anyone can shed some light on why a change of head unit may have provoked this.
I've never experienced this before and wondered if anyone can shed some light on why a change of head unit may have provoked this.
The output voltage on the new HU is probably higher than the old one. Like 1.5v for the hold one and 5v for the new one.
Turn the amp gain all the way down, then turn the HU up until it starts clipping, then back it off a touch. That's you max HU volume. Then turn the amp gain up until it starts clipping, turn back it off a touch.
Alternatively there maybe a low/high output setting on the new HU. Make and models would help.
Turn the amp gain all the way down, then turn the HU up until it starts clipping, then back it off a touch. That's you max HU volume. Then turn the amp gain up until it starts clipping, turn back it off a touch.
Alternatively there maybe a low/high output setting on the new HU. Make and models would help.
TEKNOPUG said:
The Alpine has 2v preout voltage and the Sony has 2.5v. So the Sony is sending a 25% greater voltage output. Also check whether you have loudness or similar switched on. You could also try lowering the volume via the EQ. But first reset the gain on the amp as described above.
Thanks for that, I'll start there.Just started trying to do something about this. It seems it's a bass related issue, sub specifically. It sounds very clean, right up to the point it starts clipping. I think it's just a matter of there being too much low frequency stuff happening above a certain volume. If I turn the sub down or off, it stops happening regardless of volume level. There's a lot of room for manoeuvre between the settings on the head unit and the amp, so I'm sure I'll be able to reach an acceptable compromise.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
What subwoofer is it?
DCA800 is a 6x50wrms amp, so most likely only producing 150wrms.
With that output, you will need a very sensitive subwoofer, rated at low power.
Using something with a low sensitivity and say something with 400wrms, will take a fair bit to get it moving, which a 150wrms amp output will struggle to do, before clipping.
DCA800 is a 6x50wrms amp, so most likely only producing 150wrms.
With that output, you will need a very sensitive subwoofer, rated at low power.
Using something with a low sensitivity and say something with 400wrms, will take a fair bit to get it moving, which a 150wrms amp output will struggle to do, before clipping.
MattsCar said:
What subwoofer is it?
DCA800 is a 6x50wrms amp, so most likely only producing 150wrms.
With that output, you will need a very sensitive subwoofer, rated at low power.
Using something with a low sensitivity and say something with 400wrms, will take a fair bit to get it moving, which a 150wrms amp output will struggle to do, before clipping.
Hi, it's a Rockford Fosgate, slim depth 12" in a home made enclosure copied from a website. It's been so long since I fitted it I can't remember which particular model it is, and I'm just out of hospital with little mobility, so when I'm better I'll have a gander.DCA800 is a 6x50wrms amp, so most likely only producing 150wrms.
With that output, you will need a very sensitive subwoofer, rated at low power.
Using something with a low sensitivity and say something with 400wrms, will take a fair bit to get it moving, which a 150wrms amp output will struggle to do, before clipping.
MattsCar said:
What subwoofer is it?
DCA800 is a 6x50wrms amp, so most likely only producing 150wrms.
With that output, you will need a very sensitive subwoofer, rated at low power.
Using something with a low sensitivity and say something with 400wrms, will take a fair bit to get it moving, which a 150wrms amp output will struggle to do, before clipping.
The issue is only with the new HU though, so it was working previously. My experience of Denon amps is that their specs are somewhat conservative, so I expect thet are quite a bit more than 50w per channel. Also, the channels can be bridged to 100w x 3. That particular amp has input sensitivity controls that you can adjust to match the HU signal.DCA800 is a 6x50wrms amp, so most likely only producing 150wrms.
With that output, you will need a very sensitive subwoofer, rated at low power.
Using something with a low sensitivity and say something with 400wrms, will take a fair bit to get it moving, which a 150wrms amp output will struggle to do, before clipping.
A dedicated mono sub amp is always better though.
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