In car noise correction for tyre roar

In car noise correction for tyre roar

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hermes

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218 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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Anyone done this?

My 997 C4S is shocking for tyre roar, especially on the M25 for some reason.

I’m familiar with noise cancellation/correction tech for headphones, home cinema etc, which got me wondering why isn’t something available off the shelf for car cabins now.

Or is it?

gmaz

4,629 posts

217 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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hermes said:
Anyone done this?

My 997 C4S is shocking for tyre roar, especially on the M25 for some reason.

I’m familiar with noise cancellation/correction tech for headphones, home cinema etc, which got me wondering why isn’t something available off the shelf for car cabins now.

Or is it?
The M25 has a lot of concrete sections that are much louder, The M1 was the same last time I drove it. You could try a tyre with a lower dB rating or a higher profile wheel.

Lotus developed the anti-noise technology but I have never seen a retrofit solution as it needs a complex integration into the car's systems to be effective

http://www.halosonic.co.uk/

https://www.silentium.com/automotive-case-study-2/


craigjm

18,485 posts

207 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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Just drown your car in dynomat if you have an issue with road noise or change the tyres.

jakesmith

9,463 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th May 2019
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craigjm said:
Just drown your car in dynomat if you have an issue with road noise or change the tyres.
This, Silent Coat is the same stuff but cheaper and makes quite a difference, you strip out the seats and door skins and apply the stuff all over. I did inside my doors recently to improve sound quality and even just doing the doors helps

Then tyres

The m25 is crap in places though

Blue Oval84

5,284 posts

168 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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I noticed a definite improvement in my Volvo when I had dynamat put in the front doors. The car already had acoustic glass so was pretty quiet anyway, it's now even better.

quinny100

960 posts

193 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Ford fit active noise cancellation to the Mondeo Vignale. It’s nowhere near as effective as a decent set of noise cancelling headphones.

To be really effective you need to deliver the cancelling sound waves as close and direct to the ear as possible, otherwise they can be reflected off surfaces and cease to cancel noise.

I occasionally drive vans for work - a Berlingo with no bulkhead which is terribly noisy and noise cancelling headphones are a godsend and make a huge difference to a long journey.

vx220

2,700 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Dynamat/Silent Coat will help, but MLV or Tecsound will be much better.

You need mass to block sound, and CLD is actually quite light.

MLV is "Mass Loaded Vinyl" and "CLD" is Constrained Layed Dampening "ie dynamat/Silent Coat.

To make it really work, you need a layer that is as close to seamless as possible

broncoupe

159 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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This is a hard 1 basically the only route open to you is dynamat
I offer audio upgrades to Porsche and Dynamat is a crucial element-- yes it does dampen the noise
To get someway towards what you I think you are after would be time very consuming in labour
and require an extensive amount of Dynamat therefore an expensive job
You would need to remove the complete interior carpets seats plastic trim from rear window to the front bulkhead.
and possibly the rear wheel arches externally
Speak to anyone who has carried out this exercise on a LR Defender I have done many it works extremely well
But these are easy to work on
The Porsche is a far more crammed interior
Maybe a second car might be a easier option

David Beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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David Beer said:
quinny100 said:
Ford fit active noise cancellation to the Mondeo Vignale. It’s nowhere near as effective as a decent set of noise cancelling headphones.

To be really effective you need to deliver the cancelling sound waves as close and direct to the ear as possible, otherwise they can be reflected off surfaces and cease to cancel noise.

I occasionally drive vans for work - a Berlingo with no bulkhead which is terribly noisy and noise cancelling headphones are a godsend and make a huge difference to a long journey.
Of course it is illegal to wear headphones.

Lotus, Southampton university and Clarion developed noise cancelling. The demo cars were really impressive.

majordad

3,613 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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Is it illegal to wear headphones?

Flumpo

4,024 posts

80 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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majordad said:
Is it illegal to wear headphones?
No it’s not. But if you cause a crash and the police think it was BECAUSE you were wearing headphones then you are in trouble.

I think.

David Beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Sorry, it’s illegal in France. Here could be £200 and three points. It could be upto £5000 and nine points if it goes to court , a quick google confirms.

red997

1,304 posts

216 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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earplugs;
you can get ones that lower the dB, but dont change the frequency profile
(similar to what musicians wear on loud stages)

I share your pain - concrete sections on the section for the A1 to M11 area are shocking - my GT3 sets up a resonance at legal speeds which is horrible