My new Tuscan... PLEASE HELP

[bowenslim9415]

Hi guys,

I have recently bought a 2000 Tuscan. It is on 22kmiles. Picked it up at the weekend. The car's performance is good but there are a few niggles tht I want to check are ok.

1: At motorway speeds there is an audiable ticking noise, sounds like a loud injector or something... not sure if this might jsut be the induction noise from the throttle bodies??

2: Not sure if a problem with the throttle cable or something else; when I even touch the pedal it puts quite a few revs on; then the revs take a second or so to slow down.

3: For both of the above; could it be that the garage has put a bit too much oil in the engine? Maybe this is why revs not dropping also?

Any thoughts would be muchly appreciated!!

Dave

[BatleyBoy]

bowenslim9415 said:

Hi guys,

I have recently bought a 2000 Tuscan. It is on 22kmiles. Picked it up at the weekend. The car's performance is good but there are a few niggles tht I want to check are ok.

1: At motorway speeds there is an audiable ticking noise, sounds like a loud injector or something... not sure if this might jsut be the induction noise from the throttle bodies??

2: Not sure if a problem with the throttle cable or something else; when I even touch the pedal it puts quite a few revs on; then the revs take a second or so to slow down.

3: For both of the above; could it be that the garage has put a bit too much oil in the engine? Maybe this is why revs not dropping also?

Any thoughts would be muchly appreciated!!

Dave

Hi Dave....just a suggestion, but bearing in mind you will be using the services of a TVR specialist Garage at some stage or another, why dont you use this as an opportunity to visit a couple and see what they have to say and find out what they are all about?

I'm not sure where abouts in Yorkshire you are? I happen to use Aeromotive in Birstall, Batley (01924 422200) and I would reccommend them, but there are others around that maybe more local to you?

Also why not come along to the TVRCC West Yorkshire meetings as you will get chance to meet and chat with other owners that maybe able to offer some advice. We meet 3rd Sunday of the month at 12pm at the Maor Golf Club BD11 1AB.

Cheers. BB.

[tvrdavid]

Agree with above suggestion - get it looked at. If you're in North Yorkshire I'd recommend SSCC (Steve Darville) just outside Boroughbridge. Just got mine back from him post rebuild and he's done a great job for me more than once. Incidentally mine was revving ++ pre rebuild and it was the throttle cable.

David

[bowenslim9415]

Thanks for the invite, will definately come along when it's a nice day. I don't really want to be driving long distance until I get it checked out.

Does anyone else get the ticking noise from the engine at around 2000rpm? Any ideas what this might be? Hopefully it's normal!

Dave

[Basil Brush]

Where in Yorkshire are you? Happy to meet up if anywhere near Leeds and you can compare noises with mine.

Marcus

[G20RG B]

Do you get the ticking noise on tickover also? could be tappets, has the car had a rebuild? is there any blue smoke coming from the exhaust pipes.

You could try holding a bit of pipe, (half meter of copper pipe) put one end against the engine where it says speed six/ cam cover and the other end to your ear and you should be able to locate where the noise is coming from If it is engine related.

[tvrtuscans]

Problem 2 sounds like sticking throttle cable....and/or needs replacement or lubrication

[bowenslim9415]

It's not so much on tickover, only really when going around 2k rpm constantly. I dont think it's had a rebuild yet, however it's strong engine and no blue smoke etc. Sounds great on tickover.

Would it make a ticking noise if too much oil?

Basil Brush: I live Barnsley way out, will pm you.

[shep1001]

bowenslim9415 said:

It's not so much on tickover, only really when going around 2k rpm constantly. I dont think it's had a rebuild yet, however it's strong engine and no blue smoke etc. Sounds great on tickover.

Would it make a ticking noise if too much oil?

Basil Brush: I live Barnsley way out, will pm you.

The S6 engine does sound a little like a sewing machine at low revs, most evident between 2-3K revs. I would either get it checked or meet somebody who has owned an S6 engine car for a while and let them listen. It took a good 12 months before I relaxed about the strange sounds the engine makes.

Shep

[bowenslim9415]

shep1001 said:

The S6 engine does sound a little like a sewing machine at low revs, most evident between 2-3K revs. I would either get it checked or meet somebody who has owned an S6 engine car for a while and let them listen. It took a good 12 months before I relaxed about the strange sounds the engine makes.

Shep

Hi Shep... you got it spot on, it sounds just like a sewing machine and it goes at higher speeds, not sure if that just the exhaust and wind noise drowning it out. What is it that makes this noise though? Is it induction or fuel relay sound?

[G20RG B]

shep1001 said:

The S6 engine does sound a little like a sewing machine at low revs, most evident between 2-3K revs. I would either get it checked or meet somebody who has owned an S6 engine car for a while and let them listen. It took a good 12 months before I relaxed about the strange sounds the engine makes.

Shep

Shep is spot on, I had a 2001 Tuscan and it sounded like a sewing machine and it takes a while to get used to the sounds and not worry that it is about to go BANG..Get a set of Carbon Can Company rear cans and it will pop and bang like your in a war zone it will help you forget the tap, tap, taping from the engine.
I have a 2003 Cerb SP6 and there is no tapping noise from the engine or if you listen very very carefully a faint one, but far far quieter than my 2001 Tuscan which was a great car.

[shep1001]

bowenslim9415 said:

Hi Shep... you got it spot on, it sounds just like a sewing machine and it goes at higher speeds, not sure if that just the exhaust and wind noise drowning it out. What is it that makes this noise though? Is it induction or fuel relay sound?

Honest answer is I don't know. Sometimes the chains can strike the top of the cam cover at the front, the engine does get noisier when the tappets need doing. Once I was comfortable that that was the noise I should be hearing I accepted it. I suspect the noise is there all the time but the exhaust note drowns it out. Try it with the roof off, it sounds different again, you won't hear the same noise you do with the roof on and windows up

There is a distinct difference between the 'sewing machine' noise and an engine that is tapping as it has spit a shim out or about to suffer mechanical failure.

Shep

[Basil Brush]

bowenslim9415 said:

Basil Brush: I live Barnsley way out, will pm you.

Sounds like an excuse for a drive.

Re the oil level, I´ve had mine overfilled by around half a litre at services with no problems. It´s a dry sump engine so the excess sits in the tank when running, not in the sump.

[bowenslim9415]

Well with regards to the oil, in the manual it simply says overfilling can cause using extra oil. Maybe a bit too casual view won overfilling oil I think!

Cheers for the advice... if anyone wants to add anything else please let me know.

How much does it cost for tappets to get done?

[shep1001]

bowenslim9415 said:

Well with regards to the oil, in the manual it simply says overfilling can cause using extra oil. Maybe a bit too casual view won overfilling oil I think!

Cheers for the advice... if anyone wants to add anything else please let me know.

How much does it cost for tappets to get done?

It's part of the 12K service which costs about £750 depending on where you go. On its own I would guess at £200-£250 depending on if they need adjusting or not.

Regarding the oil level, yes overfilling is bad you you would have to go some to cause serious damage. Its more likely to end up in the airbox on the air filter as it slops about the oil tank when you give it beans round the bends. Check it, there is a guide on here as to what do do. Basically with the engine at temp (not cold) loosen dip stick, switch engine off, remove & wipe, re-insert and remove and look where the level is on the end of the stick.

Shep

[shep1001]

shep1001 said:

It's part of the 12K service which costs about £750 depending on where you go. On its own I would guess at £200-£250 depending on if they need adjusting or not.

Regarding the oil level, yes overfilling is bad you you would have to go some to cause serious damage. Its more likely to end up in the airbox on the air filter as it slops about the oil tank when you give it beans round the bends. Check it, there is a guide on here as to what do do. Basically with the engine at temp (not cold) loosen dip stick, switch engine off, remove & wipe, re-insert and remove and look where the level is on the end of the stick. Best done with two people, after about 30 secs the reading is not as accurate as the oil drains back again.

Shep

[1979Smooth6]

Varley's speed 6 website has diagnostics software to download, with the ecu cable this is invaluable for zero-ing the throttle, as an initial measure, when they are causing problems.

I find any inadvertent contact with the loud pedal on ignition allows for immediate rough running.