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Hi , Just done a friends Tuscan S with a reconditioned set of bodies as well , started 1 time on the base map , its a lot better when cold and on idle and would have been great if nb 3 cylinder was at 240 psi like the rest. It still made 311@ wheels @ 7200 . The engines comming out now as were going for the LS3 conversion the Omex will run this. As for is it worth it i think so as its a fully mapable unit plus it has all the other options availible , traction control , NOS control the list goes on
Bit pointless if you ask me as the kits available from RG are not set-up to do sequential injection (no cam position sensor) or to have knock control. Imho they're not "that much" better than the standard TVR tailored MBE 941 based units. I believe the Syvecs system still in development does though?
Ever since the Syvecs development thread got pulled there's been very little/no further info in the public domain about it, particularly with regards its knock control capacity when fitted to the 'noisy' S6.
Hopefully Ryan from Syvecs can add to this thread in a non-promotional and matter fact way that doesn't contravene the PH advertising rules?
Ever since the Syvecs development thread got pulled there's been very little/no further info in the public domain about it, particularly with regards its knock control capacity when fitted to the 'noisy' S6.
Hopefully Ryan from Syvecs can add to this thread in a non-promotional and matter fact way that doesn't contravene the PH advertising rules?
dvs_dave said:
Bit pointless if you ask me as the kits available from RG are not set-up to do sequential injection (no cam position sensor) or to have knock control. Imho they're not "that much" better than the standard TVR tailored MBE 941 based units. I believe the Syvecs system still in development does though?
Ever since the Syvecs development thread got pulled there's been very little/no further info in the public domain about it, particularly with regards its knock control capacity when fitted to the 'noisy' S6.
Hopefully Ryan from Syvecs can add to this thread in a non-promotional and matter fact way that doesn't contravene the PH advertising rules?
Omex 71O does have "knock sensing capability", and launch ccontrol.Ever since the Syvecs development thread got pulled there's been very little/no further info in the public domain about it, particularly with regards its knock control capacity when fitted to the 'noisy' S6.
Hopefully Ryan from Syvecs can add to this thread in a non-promotional and matter fact way that doesn't contravene the PH advertising rules?
Syvecs has knock control, traction control and the capability of sequential injection, indeed.
Hope my car's ready at the end of the month
PascalBuyens said:
Omex 71O does have "knock sensing capability", and launch ccontrol.
Syvecs has knock control, traction control and the capability of sequential injection, indeed.
Hope my car's ready at the end of the month
Yes the omex 710 has knock sensor inputs and is also capable of running the injection sequentially. I'm just not sure that the RG kit (wiring loom) has the relevant sensors, or even includes wide band lambdas?Syvecs has knock control, traction control and the capability of sequential injection, indeed.
Hope my car's ready at the end of the month
Basically as far as I can ascertain all the RG Omex 710 kit does over the MBE is idle control and TC/LC?
dvs_dave said:
Yes the omex 710 has knock sensor inputs and is also capable of running the injection sequentially. I'm just not sure that the RG kit (wiring loom) has the relevant sensors, or even includes wide band lambdas?
Basically as far as I can ascertain all the RG Omex 710 kit does over the MBE is idle control and TC/LC?
It looks like the Syvecs system is now being officially marketted by Racing Green, going by the back cover advert on the latest 'Sprint' magazine...Basically as far as I can ascertain all the RG Omex 710 kit does over the MBE is idle control and TC/LC?
Just to clear a few things up
The Omex 710 Kit from RG is just the 710 Ecu, Idle control kit and loom.
Although the omex has knock sensing ability it can not do anything about it i.e pull timing, add fuel..
Omex has launch control, no wheel speed traction control
The Syvecs Kit from RG comes with Syvecs S6, Loom, Idle control solenoid, Cam Sensor, Wideband Knock sensor, Wideband Lambda sensor and 8 Position cal switch (for switching maps on fly) Options for the syvecs kit is the traction control package which i would highly recommend for a Tvr owner... It provides wheels speed sensors that can detect when slip is occuring from the driving wheels and kills torque through ignition retard and fuel cuts to stop the spinning.
Syvecs has launch control and much more! But this info can be obtained from racing green.
With regards the knock control on the syvecs and noisy S6. The Syvecs is fitted with a wideband bosch knock sensor which allows the syvecs tuner to dial in a certain frequency which the tuner should know knock occurs at on the engine based on a few calculations in combustion chamber size. This way all other freqs of noise are removed.
It then can be configured to listen at a certain point in the combustion to remove all other noise aswell which is done on the speed six.
When the threshold of knock is overcome, timing is pulled and if its more than 10 degrees it will shut down the cylinder as something is obviously very wrong!!
Ryan
The Omex 710 Kit from RG is just the 710 Ecu, Idle control kit and loom.
Although the omex has knock sensing ability it can not do anything about it i.e pull timing, add fuel..
Omex has launch control, no wheel speed traction control
The Syvecs Kit from RG comes with Syvecs S6, Loom, Idle control solenoid, Cam Sensor, Wideband Knock sensor, Wideband Lambda sensor and 8 Position cal switch (for switching maps on fly) Options for the syvecs kit is the traction control package which i would highly recommend for a Tvr owner... It provides wheels speed sensors that can detect when slip is occuring from the driving wheels and kills torque through ignition retard and fuel cuts to stop the spinning.
Syvecs has launch control and much more! But this info can be obtained from racing green.
With regards the knock control on the syvecs and noisy S6. The Syvecs is fitted with a wideband bosch knock sensor which allows the syvecs tuner to dial in a certain frequency which the tuner should know knock occurs at on the engine based on a few calculations in combustion chamber size. This way all other freqs of noise are removed.
It then can be configured to listen at a certain point in the combustion to remove all other noise aswell which is done on the speed six.
When the threshold of knock is overcome, timing is pulled and if its more than 10 degrees it will shut down the cylinder as something is obviously very wrong!!
Ryan
Edited by Ryan Griffiths on Wednesday 16th February 09:06
Ryan Griffiths said:
Just to clear a few things up
The Omex 710 Kit from RG is just the 710 Ecu, Idle control kit and loom.
Although the omex has knock sensing ability it can not do anything about it i.e pull timing, add fuel..
Omex has launch control, no wheel speed traction control
The Syvecs Kit from RG comes with Syvecs S6, Loom, Idle control solenoid, Wideband Knock sensor, Wideband Lambda sensor and 8 Position cal switch (for switching maps on fly) Options for the syvecs kit is the traction control package which i would highly recommend for a Tvr owner... It provides wheels speed sensors that can detect when slip is occuring from the driving wheels and kills torque through ignition retard and fuel cuts to stop the spinning.
Syvecs has launch control and much more! But this info can be obtained from racing green.
With regards the knock control on the syvecs and noisy S6. The Syvecs is fitted with a wideband bosch knock sensor which allows the syvecs tuner to dial in a certain frequency which the tuner should know knock occurs at on the engine based on a few calculations in combustion chamber size. This way all other freqs of noise are removed.
It then can be configured to listen at a certain point in the combustion to remove all other noise aswell which is done on the speed six.
When the threshold of knock is overcome, timing is pulled and if its more than 10 degrees it will shut down the cylinder as something is obviously very wrong!!
Ryan
You've sold it to me where do I sign? The Omex 710 Kit from RG is just the 710 Ecu, Idle control kit and loom.
Although the omex has knock sensing ability it can not do anything about it i.e pull timing, add fuel..
Omex has launch control, no wheel speed traction control
The Syvecs Kit from RG comes with Syvecs S6, Loom, Idle control solenoid, Wideband Knock sensor, Wideband Lambda sensor and 8 Position cal switch (for switching maps on fly) Options for the syvecs kit is the traction control package which i would highly recommend for a Tvr owner... It provides wheels speed sensors that can detect when slip is occuring from the driving wheels and kills torque through ignition retard and fuel cuts to stop the spinning.
Syvecs has launch control and much more! But this info can be obtained from racing green.
With regards the knock control on the syvecs and noisy S6. The Syvecs is fitted with a wideband bosch knock sensor which allows the syvecs tuner to dial in a certain frequency which the tuner should know knock occurs at on the engine based on a few calculations in combustion chamber size. This way all other freqs of noise are removed.
It then can be configured to listen at a certain point in the combustion to remove all other noise aswell which is done on the speed six.
When the threshold of knock is overcome, timing is pulled and if its more than 10 degrees it will shut down the cylinder as something is obviously very wrong!!
Ryan
Ryan Griffiths said:
Edited my post to add the Racing green kit also comes with a Cam sensor for sequential injection.
I think you need to get a brouchure together for this ECU.I'm nearly sold on it. Do you know how many have been put on to TVR's and of those the ones with the standard 3.6L engine?
How long does this system take to install.
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