30000 miles without a rebuild

30000 miles without a rebuild

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More Steam

Original Poster:

698 posts

196 months

Saturday 31st July 2010
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Hi,

I'm looking at a 2001 Tuscan which has done 30000 miles without a rebuild. Is this normal or should I avoid it. I've been told it has a good service history, but otherwise I know nothing about it.


Ironballs

363 posts

181 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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My Tamora has done 34K and at the last look all was fine. 05 model year though

FactoryPilot

1,352 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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I suppose the question is are you 100% certain it hasn't had a rebuild?

I would've thought a 2001 model would've had one or would need one........ The engines improved later on and my old 2004 Tuscan 2 did 27k before I sold it and that hadn't had a rebuild and under my ownership I'm sure it would've been good for at least another 27k, but I put that down to the fact that it had a later improved engine.

andymartin88

55 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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I have a 2000 Cerbera Speed 6 that I bought at the start of last year with 19,800 miles on it. My inexperience of TVR's at the time led me to believe it would be sound becuase of the low mileage.

Wrong - I found out it had low compression 3- 4 weeks after purchase, the car drove ok & I used it as it was for around 7000 miles before it got to the point where it had to be sorted.

The car went into TVR Power at the end of May and has had a full rebuild, it was very expensive, but the car is excellent now.

Apparently by 2004 the Speed 6 engine had had its problems sorted out - hence there being several high mileage Sags around with no issues.

Personally I'd either buy one which has definitely been rebuilt or make sure it is priced accordingly so that you've got a decent contribution to a rebuild if necessary.

Finally I would also say that when on song I think the engine is excellent - my car flies which is what it is all about!

I hope this helps,

Cheers,

andymartin88

justyr

337 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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I would get it checked out by someone very familiar with the S6 issues. If clean, great...
J

More Steam

Original Poster:

698 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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Thanks gents. I'm still trying to get some info on the car. Anybody got any thought on the AA checking it out?

Cheers
D

Don1

16,047 posts

214 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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I have to say, after a summer of hard use, the Sagaris is running better than ever....

dvs_dave

8,980 posts

231 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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More Steam said:
Hi,

I'm looking at a 2001 Tuscan which has done 30000 miles without a rebuild. Is this normal or should I avoid it. I've been told it has a good service history, but otherwise I know nothing about it.
At that age and mileage if(?) without a rebuid then its likely that the valve guides rather than the finger followers are on their way out. Symptoms are sooty exhaust cans, smoke on a hot start and high oil consumption.

FactoryPilot

1,352 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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More Steam said:
Thanks gents. I'm still trying to get some info on the car. Anybody got any thought on the AA checking it out?

Cheers
D
Wouldn't waste your money on the AA to be honest. Don't know where the car is located, but I'd be inclined to search out and contact a 'good' local specialist, then arrange with the owner to get it properly inspected.

pete

1,598 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd August 2010
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Definitely get someone to do a compression check, and preferably also have a look at how much adjustment is left on the valves. My 2003 3.6 needed a rebuild after 41,000 miles, with the symptoms being increasingly falling compression readings at every 6k service, and the exhaust valve clearances closing up as the valve seats erroded.

Mind you, even at that point it was passing emissions tests, hardly using any oil, and didn't sound too bad - but it was just a matter of time before something more catastrophic would have failed and caused more damage.

Pete

shep1001

4,601 posts

195 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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20k now on my 2002 Tamora and no problems, looked fine inside last time Str8six had a look on the service when checking the tappets. Shhhhh dont say it too loud

Shep

Graaf

169 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Finally something positive about the speed six between all the panic !
Mine has done 17000 and engine has been checked recently, cilinders are perfect and compression testresult is "as new". I am sure there are more out there...

Edited by Graaf on Tuesday 17th August 11:21

T350 Al

622 posts

197 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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I think we're pushing towards about 26k on our 05 T350 with no real issues apart from the clutch. Long may it stay that way! biggrin

Tom 8

68 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Mine is almost up to 30k miles and no rebuild. Last service a couple of months ago, everything is absolutely fine, no wear no nothing, strong engine.

The rebuild thing is a big myth as far as I'm concerned. Like any cars there are good ones and lemmons. Then there are drivers who look after the car properly and those who don't.

As the Tuscan was such a hit when it first arrived a lot of non TVR folk bought them and bashed them around thinking they were built like a porsche and hey presto. They sell the car as they can't live with it and proper TVR buyer takes over with a relatively new car which has been trashed.

Get a good check done, but non rebuild is no bad thing, there are plenty of them out there.

Graaf

169 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Knowing that the previous owner has driven it well (carefully warmed up) and taken maintenance seriously (fluids check every drive, valves set every 8000 miles). On top of some improvements (balancing throttle bodies, remove cats) did convince me to buy my 2001 Tusc without rebuild (but that's just me :-) )


Zippee

13,543 posts

240 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Graaf said:
Finally something positive about the speed six between all the panic !
Mine has done 17000 and engine has been checked recently, cilinders are perfect and compression testresult is "as new". I am sure there are more out there...

Edited by Graaf on Tuesday 17th August 11:21
Mines a 54 plate and just ticked over 20k, though it did have a bottom end rebuild at 9000 miles. Barely any tappet adjustment required at any service (I get it checked every 6k), perfect compression and uses no oil between services, I also managed 10k in the last 12 months with no problems.
I personally feel they get better the more they are used - usual warming caveats apply.

dvs_dave

8,980 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Well my original motor went for 30k before I had it rebuilt by Power (valve guides went).

Now have 20k on the rebuilt engine and it's more powerful than it was even when new.

shorts!

695 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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dvs_dave said:
Well my original motor went for 30k before I had it rebuilt by Power (valve guides went).

Now have 20k on the rebuilt engine and it's more powerful than it was even when new.
Same story here. Just substitute Daves 30k for 60k and his 20k for 80k. The power of a Power rebuild.

DuncanM

6,411 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Hello Shorts,

If I read your post correctly you have done 80k since your rebuild!?

That is absolutely outstanding and good news for anyone buying an S6 engined TVR smile.

Great work from Dom at TVR Power!

Big thumbs up from me smile.

Duncan

shorts!

695 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Big thumbs up from me too!smile