TVR S6 v The rest

TVR S6 v The rest

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s6boy

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1,654 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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With all the development work carried out by various engine builders and TVR Power now offering a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty, would it be fair to say (assuming the claims are proved correct) that the rebuilt S6 is the most reliable and powerful - bhp/ n.a litre straight 6 road car engine.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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s6boy said:
With all the development work carried out by various engine builders and TVR Power now offering a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty, would it be fair to say (assuming the claims are proved correct) that the rebuilt S6 is the most reliable and powerful - bhp/ n.a litre straight 6 road car engine.
If we could see some engine dyno results from an independant test house, then maybe we could. However, I would have a long hard look at some of the power coming from 4 cylinder car engines in road cars.

I would guess the S6 is probably a wee bit short and would need to see the otherside of 500 bhp in its 4.5 form to realise that accolade.

Is it reliable? far too soon to tell. Because a 5 year warranty is on offer doesn't make something reliable, it just suggests that the man behind some of the builds has faith in his product.

Positive - there are certainly less critics of the engine now.

dvs_dave

8,978 posts

231 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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The well rebuilt engines certainly seem to be bang on 100 bhp/litre. I know my 4.0 Tuscan S is as I've run it on several different dynos and it consistently does 350-360 bhp at the wheels which is 400 at the fly.

Whether you could class a rebuilt S6 as a production engine is a different matter.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

253 months

Saturday 27th February 2010
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TVR_owner said:
If we could see some engine dyno results from an independant test house.............
We have.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

197 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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Flintstone said:
TVR_owner said:
If we could see some engine dyno results from an independant test house.............
We have.
Would that be rolling road figures, or engine dyno??

Flintstone

8,644 posts

253 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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Rolling roads (granted) but I've had three different ones on mine, all posted on here, yet people keep nibbling away. I suppose if/when a negative report appears that'll be seized upon as The Proof some want. In the meantime I'm more than happy that Power have done what they said they could and are standing by their work.

As a customer that's good enough for me.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

197 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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Flintstone said:
Rolling roads (granted) but I've had three different ones on mine, all posted on here, yet people keep nibbling away. I suppose if/when a negative report appears that'll be seized upon as The Proof some want. In the meantime I'm more than happy that Power have done what they said they could and are standing by their work.

As a customer that's good enough for me.
I agree, happy customers are what is important.

The OP was around high output relative to other N/A engines. To compare first you need a bench mark and a rolling road is not it. I would like to see some real comparible figures just for curiosity - not to knock.

sidewayz

2,681 posts

247 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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Flintstone said:
Rolling roads (granted) but I've had three different ones on mine, all posted on here, yet people keep nibbling away. I suppose if/when a negative report appears that'll be seized upon as The Proof some want. In the meantime I'm more than happy that Power have done what they said they could and are standing by their work.

As a customer that's good enough for me.
Completely agree. I don't get the need to cast doubt, they deliver ( 4.3 owner)

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

197 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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sidewayz said:
Flintstone said:
Rolling roads (granted) but I've had three different ones on mine, all posted on here, yet people keep nibbling away. I suppose if/when a negative report appears that'll be seized upon as The Proof some want. In the meantime I'm more than happy that Power have done what they said they could and are standing by their work.

As a customer that's good enough for me.
Completely agree. I don't get the need to cast doubt, they deliver ( 4.3 owner)
No one is casting doubt that the 4.3 delivers good power. What it delivers in comparable terms was what was being discussed, as someone suggested it may be close to the highest performing bhp/litre N/A engine out there but then I feel I'm repeating myself and should give up because there are so many happy customers.

If you are happy then I'm pleased for you also.

Should know better to get involved with fan club members...

Edited by TVR_owner on Sunday 28th February 20:33

Whitey

2,508 posts

290 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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Flintstone said:
Rolling roads (granted) but I've had three different ones on mine, all posted on here, yet people keep nibbling away. I suppose if/when a negative report appears that'll be seized upon as The Proof some want. In the meantime I'm more than happy that Power have done what they said they could and are standing by their work.

As a customer that's good enough for me.
Can you post the results and say what the dynos were please, I'd like to hear some numbers, I don't remember any on here before. Surrey rolling road would be nice so I can compare to mine!

s6boy

Original Poster:

1,654 posts

231 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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TVR_owner said:
Flintstone said:
Rolling roads (granted) but I've had three different ones on mine, all posted on here, yet people keep nibbling away. I suppose if/when a negative report appears that'll be seized upon as The Proof some want. In the meantime I'm more than happy that Power have done what they said they could and are standing by their work.

As a customer that's good enough for me.
I agree, happy customers are what is important.

The OP was around high output relative to other N/A engines. To compare first you need a bench mark and a rolling road is not it. I would like to see some real comparible figures just for curiosity - not to knock.
OK perhaps the initial question was not clear. If the re-built Speed 6 engines coming from the well known sources are making the quoted power and are reliable enough to be covered by a 5 year warranty would they stand comparison with the main stream manufacturers,I'm thinking along the lines of BMW's straight 6 in the M cars which came first to mind but also the Nissan and Toyota units (but unsure if these were all n/a).

And to put the cat amongst the pigeons an engine on a bench connected to a dyno is only going to answer questions like this one spin, if you then put the same engine in 2 cars of equal weight but one is 4 wheel drive with an auto box and the other is a rear drive manual the losses at the wheels will be hugely different, so an at the driven wheel figure is going to be more representative of the cars performance...

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

197 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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s6boy said:
TVR_owner said:
Flintstone said:
Rolling roads (granted) but I've had three different ones on mine, all posted on here, yet people keep nibbling away. I suppose if/when a negative report appears that'll be seized upon as The Proof some want. In the meantime I'm more than happy that Power have done what they said they could and are standing by their work.

As a customer that's good enough for me.
I agree, happy customers are what is important.

The OP was around high output relative to other N/A engines. To compare first you need a bench mark and a rolling road is not it. I would like to see some real comparible figures just for curiosity - not to knock.
OK perhaps the initial question was not clear. If the re-built Speed 6 engines coming from the well known sources are making the quoted power and are reliable enough to be covered by a 5 year warranty would they stand comparison with the main stream manufacturers,I'm thinking along the lines of BMW's straight 6 in the M cars which came first to mind but also the Nissan and Toyota units (but unsure if these were all n/a).

And to put the cat amongst the pigeons an engine on a bench connected to a dyno is only going to answer questions like this one spin, if you then put the same engine in 2 cars of equal weight but one is 4 wheel drive with an auto box and the other is a rear drive manual the losses at the wheels will be hugely different, so an at the driven wheel figure is going to be more representative of the cars performance...
John,
I didn't even notice the ref to 6 cyliner engines in your original post. So, after reading all the words in the order they were written - which requires very little clarification...a revised answer to part of your question.

Yes...I think the rebuilt S6 engines from the bettter builders may well be the highest output 6 clinder engines per cc

smile


SteveO...

465 posts

231 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Whilst it's hardly mainstream, the 3.6 litre flat 6 in the last Porsche GT3 was good for over 400bhp.

Although it's obviously a flat 6, not a straight 6. Doh!

Edited by SteveO... on Monday 1st March 19:03

Far Eastender

1,361 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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The GT3 is a little bit special. The 3.8L 911S is only 385 BHP, which is 'almost' S6 territory.