speed six rebuild

speed six rebuild

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mikey d

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30 posts

192 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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Help required as I'm in a dilema , I own a 2001 tuscan that has just had a 12k service and the mechanic has said that no 5 pot is slightly fould and the car uses a lot of oil , after asking what the cause is, the mechanic said its probably a valve guide that is slightly worn , I asked about the finger followers and he said they looked ok , he also said the cam chain would not adjust anymore , I asked him how to remedy this and he said an engine rebuild but I think this is drastic as we are talking 4500 k plus vat. Has anyone just had the valve guides changed and how much as there is a credit crunch on at the moment ?

Ed

691 posts

281 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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mikey d said:
I asked him how to remedy this and he said an engine rebuild but I think this is drastic as we are talking 4500 k plus vat.
If it needs to be done, then the magnitude of the price is irrelevant in it being 'drastic' unfortunately.

If this was mine, I'd keep driving it. If you're facing a rebuild anyway, then you don't have a great deal to lose in driving it in its current 'as far as we can adjust it' state.

If you are facing £4500 + VAT, then personally I'd go to the bank for another £2.5k, and get a 4.3L Power rebuild. It's a hell of a big pile of cash but at least this way you've something additional to show for the spend.

BGB autosport

1,027 posts

193 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Which chain has run out of adjustment? Top or bottom. If its the bottom has he turned the ring around? if not there my be another half hole of adjustment left.


How much oil is it using and is smoke visable?

mikey d

Original Poster:

30 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Its using about 2 litres of oil per 1000 miles but no signs of smoke , a mechanic friend said the valve seals wear , so why should I spend 5k on the rebuild ,seems to me that all these TVR specialists are price fixing because they know people are in need of the rebuild so charge the earth for doing the work. Has anyone got any details of good engine builders who don't spank the enthusiasts ass and charge a fair price ?

Basil Brush

5,198 posts

269 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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How many miles has your motor done and has it been rebuilt before?

grumbledoak

31,752 posts

239 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Without wanting to slight your current garage, I'd be on the phone to Dom at TVR Power tomorrow. Your garage might not be overjoyed, but if they are worth ever returning to they'll accept you wanting to do this; it is a lot of money. You'll at least get a second opinion, a good warranty, and optional upgrades...

softtop

3,071 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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if the guides are worn then you only need a head rebuild. the engine comes out for the work . No need to run it in afterwards. The costs should be about £2,500 off the top of my head.

fraxton

81 posts

189 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Hi I was quoted around £650 to have new valve gides fitted. But than again I don't mind taking the head of myself and rifitting it.

fraxton

81 posts

189 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Hi I was quoted around £650 to have new valve gides fitted. But than again I don't mind taking the head of myself and rifitting it.

RiddleMcFiddle

192 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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I wouldn't let any normal garage rebuild my engine. In my opinion £5k for a standard rebuild to a far better quality is very reasonable. Go elsewhere and save £1000 maybe, but you won't have the 3 year warranty peace of mind.

Tvr power rebuilds are worth the money.

mikey d

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30 posts

192 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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5k is a lot of money to me , maybe dom will do it on interest free credit over 5 years. Come on tvr power quote me happy

RiddleMcFiddle

192 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Mikey d - £5000 is a lot to all of us, but saving 1-1.5k elsewhere is silly, it will probably end it tears if they havent got experience of the speed 6 engine.

Im sure you were aware of the cost to run these high performance cars before you purchased. Im expecting to shell out for a rebuild next year, and £5k is alot for me, but i accepted it the day i bought a TVR and not an M3.

smile

Edited by RiddleMcFiddle on Monday 2nd November 19:45

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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mikey d said:
5k is a lot of money to me , maybe dom will do it on interest free credit over 5 years. Come on tvr power quote me happy
Quote you happy smile


Dom

mikey d

Original Poster:

30 posts

192 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Hey fraxton will you let me know how you go on with the replacement of the valve guides as you could do mine

mikey d

Original Poster:

30 posts

192 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Hey fraxton will you let me know how you go on with the replacement of the valve guides as you could do mine

R TOY

1,725 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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In a similar dilema at the mo' engine has a nasty tapping noise which is probably a follower but came on suddenly so maybe not ? All looks ok from the top. If i go down the localised fix route could end up spending say £500-£1000 and still have problems. Whereas the full rebuild fix sorts the problem and any other issues which may be on the way + a 3yr warranty and peace of mind. I dont want to be driving the car with a sense of impending doom hanging over me, i want to enjoy it. That said 5k+ is a lot of cash and seriously damages my V8 Vantage fund smile.
Maybe Dom could quote me happy aswell wink
I keep stalling but i know what has to be done..i think

Daston

6,112 posts

209 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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My engine is also suffering the blue smoke of death.

I have been told that it wont cause any other damage other than using oil. It puffs a bit on start up and is worse the longer its left.

As for costs and things I have been quoted around £800 for the engine out and back in. Plus then around £1k for a revamped head with better valves, guides, stem seals and springs. Plus the cost of swapping the head etc.

Sadly I have wedding and new house to fund so it probably wont be done for another year or so.


VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

213 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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R TOY said:
In a similar dilema at the mo' engine has a nasty tapping noise which is probably a follower but came on suddenly so maybe not ?
Sounds like it has spit out a shim.

Best DO NOT START THE ENGINE.

Get Power or STR8-Six to go fishing for it, before it jams in the chains or scavenge pump.


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R TOY

1,725 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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VARLEYHYD said:
R TOY said:
In a similar dilema at the mo' engine has a nasty tapping noise which is probably a follower but came on suddenly so maybe not ?
Sounds like it has spit out a shim.

Best DO NOT START THE ENGINE.

Get Power or STR8-Six to go fishing for it, before it jams in the chains or scavenge pump.


G
No, all shims in place and all looks ok from the top. That wouldve been the prefered problem but nothings simple !!

mikey d

Original Poster:

30 posts

192 months

Saturday 14th November 2009
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hi all

has anyone had a track v road rebuild and how much ????
seems to me that tvr power and straight six are the wizards of all rebuilds but im a yorkshire man and there is the logistics of the location plus 5k is a lot of sheep to sell, they dont realise that we are all flap cap wearing wippet owners in yorkshire, the sooner a garage makes it more affordable the better. if dom cant quote us happy then maybe richard can. Think about it ,if richard charged a fraction less than those who are more southern than us then there would be more northern happy flat cappers