Oil way modifications?

Oil way modifications?

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RiddleMcFiddle

Original Poster:

192 posts

181 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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I under stand that TVR Power and Str8 Six carry out oil way mods to the block or cylinder head.

Out of interest, does any one know what exactly is done?

Im budgeting for a rebuild next year and am keen to hear as much info as possible before i decide what route to take.

boardinscotland

1,226 posts

202 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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RiddleMcFiddle said:
I under stand that TVR Power and Str8 Six carry out oil way mods to the block or cylinder head.

Out of interest, does any one know what exactly is done?

Im budgeting for a rebuild next year and am keen to hear as much info as possible before i decide what route to take.
Not the only ones, had my oil mod pathways done at Dulfords with "super cams" as well. Give them a buzz and they will explain all.
Cheers
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PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

288 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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The whole oil circuit gets changed in the RG setup, so that the timing chains gets lubricated right away for one.

They also change the way it gets divided over the cams, as I understood that in the normal setup the exhaust cam is only lubricated from one side of the engine. In the RG setup they change it so that it gets the same "split" in the middle of the cam before it is "thrown" over the cam smile

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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This 4,3 from TVR Power has done 36,000miles
So no problem there




Any big miles on a RG FFF to compare yet?

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plasticman

901 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Doesn`t seem to be in a car though ?

Whitey

2,508 posts

290 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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also looks like a camshaft has done a runner laugh

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Should have said

No problem with it.
Its from Dom's Sag, 36,000 miles and he's about to put a different crank in it for another performance and reliability trial.

It was interseting to see no significant wear on any parts.
And its been spanked(a lot)





Any big miles on a RG FFF to compare yet?

G
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RiddleMcFiddle

Original Poster:

192 posts

181 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Tell dom to sell me his 4.3, and he can build himself a new one.

tongue out

I like the idea of the FFF, just so its a quiet engine, but the cost is more than a 4.3L, leaving the FFF a completely pointless move in my opinion.


PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

288 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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VARLEYHYD said:
Any big miles on a RG FFF to compare yet?
RG's demo FFF T350 did way over 20k miles by now IIRC and Lee has been putting on some miles on his too...

I'm quite sure there are a few FFF's out there too that don't post up on here...

As for calling the FFF pointless: if the FFF is a "pointless move", what's the point in enlarging the capacity to 4.3 then? Or even better question: what is the point of the Speed Twelve having a FFF-like setup at all then?

RiddleMcFiddle

Original Poster:

192 posts

181 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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PascalBuyens said:
VARLEYHYD said:
Any big miles on a RG FFF to compare yet?
RG's demo FFF T350 did way over 20k miles by now IIRC and Lee has been putting on some miles on his too...

I'm quite sure there are a few FFF's out there too that don't post up on here...

As for calling the FFF pointless: if the FFF is a "pointless move", what's the point in enlarging the capacity to 4.3 then? Or even better question: what is the point of the Speed Twelve having a FFF-like setup at all then?
"leaving the FFF a completely pointless move in my opinion." If it was cheaper then it would perhaps tempt me, but the cost is massive.


The 4.3L is more powerful, has a billet crank, and i personally think it will outlast the FFF.

Do you have an FFF by any chance?



Edited by RiddleMcFiddle on Wednesday 28th October 23:30

d18mca

314 posts

203 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Graham

Have 9000 miles on my engine now.
Still running faultlessly.
Will be mapped 0n the 14-15th next month by Paul from Austec,and will then have some idea of torque curve etc.
Happy motoring all.
Davy mac

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

213 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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d18mca said:
Graham
Have 9000 miles on my engine now.
Still running faultlessly.
Will be mapped 0n the 14-15th next month by Paul from Austec,and will then have some idea of torque curve etc.
Happy motoring all.
Davy mac
My 4,3 PowerSTR8-Six is on 6k plus now, and getting stronger

Will you be at Austec on Sunday then?

It would be good to meet up, maybe even get mine on rollers too.


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d18mca

314 posts

203 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Graham
Paul is coming to N.I. to map 6 cars over the weekend 14th 15th.I'm afraid I probably won't be in England until Chatsworth next year.
Davy

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

212 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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RiddleMcFiddle said:
I under stand that TVR Power and Str8 Six carry out oil way mods to the block or cylinder head.

Out of interest, does any one know what exactly is done?

Im budgeting for a rebuild next year and am keen to hear as much info as possible before i decide what route to take.
Oil ways are all std its very simple use quality parts problem solved this is why we can offer 3yrs unlimited mileage warranty on all std rebuilds.




Dom

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

212 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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plasticman said:
Doesn`t seem to be in a car though ?
My Sag is having a refurb all over for next year this is why my engine is out plus i wanted everyone to see how Tvr Powers engine looks after total abuse of testing for 2yrs and covering 36000 miles hence why my engine not in the car


Dom

Edited by Tvr Power on Saturday 31st October 15:41

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

212 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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PascalBuyens said:
The whole oil circuit gets changed in the RG setup, so that the timing chains gets lubricated right away for one.

They also change the way it gets divided over the cams, as I understood that in the normal setup the exhaust cam is only lubricated from one side of the engine. In the RG setup they change it so that it gets the same "split" in the middle of the cam before it is "thrown" over the cam smile
Both sides are equally lubricated as designed by Tvr


Dom

BGB autosport

1,027 posts

193 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Tvr Power said:
RiddleMcFiddle said:
I under stand that TVR Power and Str8 Six carry out oil way mods to the block or cylinder head.

Out of interest, does any one know what exactly is done?

Im budgeting for a rebuild next year and am keen to hear as much info as possible before i decide what route to take.
Oil ways are all std its very simple use quality parts problem solved this is why we can offer 3yrs unlimited mileage warranty on all std rebuilds.
Dom
Would that be used or new quality parts?

Edited by BGB autosport on Sunday 1st November 09:02

T450t

410 posts

197 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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As dom said all you require for a top class speed six is quality parts with a quality engine builder. Any firm that offers you a mod from the original design will probably have no benifit to you at all and why folk want FFF rather than a FF engine is a complete mystery to me. I guess some firms work on the urban mod myth and the old saying a fool and his money but I guess if there are mugs to be had good luck to them. I think some folk on here should remember the past. No one as yet has bettered the original TVR design and I guess no one will.

If you want longevity with power, source you parts carefully with no expence spared and know your engine BUILDER not the firm he works for.

GreenV8S

30,416 posts

290 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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T450t said:
No one as yet has bettered the original TVR design and I guess no one will.
Weren't numerous design faults pointed out during the 'Melling' presentation?

T450t

410 posts

197 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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GreenV8S said:
T450t said:
No one as yet has bettered the original TVR design and I guess no one will.
Weren't numerous design faults pointed out during the 'Melling' presentation?
Peter

Melling, Autocraft, Wildcat, have all promised sp6 utopia but to date only RG have are doing something that really is not new in the sp6 with no point. I stand by what I say. Quality parts and a quality engine builder is all is required for a quality engine. All these mods are smoke and mirrors to mug folk from there hard earned.