Manifold ceramic coating

[dvs_dave]

I'm seriously considering having my exhaust manifolds ceramic coated.

How far along the exhausts should you go with the coating, just up to the collector on each manifold or further back? Does it result in higher temperatures further along the exhaust and is this problematic?

Also, for those who've had it done, who did it for you and what sort of price should I be paying? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers

[TVR_owner]

dvs_dave said:

I'm seriously considering having my exhaust manifolds ceramic coated.

How far along the exhausts should you go with the coating, just up to the collector on each manifold or further back? Does it result in higher temperatures further along the exhaust and is this problematic?

Also, for those who've had it done, who did it for you and what sort of price should I be paying? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers

You would be advised to do something with the cats as they are a source of heat. As a result of sucessfull thermal insulation you will see extra thermal growth in the system. As to it being a problem depends on the system itself.

I had some done last year - expensive and poor. Lasted a number of months before starting to show signs of coating breakdown.

[VARLEYHYD]

For a lasting job go for plasma ceramic coating £460-500 with cats, loads of colours if you want.
Nuclear power station spec.

Cheaper available but will dissapear and chalk in time



G

[stimshady]

wow, they look good. where did you get them done Graham?

[VARLEYHYD]

stimshady said:

wow, they look good. where did you get them done Graham?

Zircotec is the company.

I think STR8-SIX can do it.
orange is even possible, but i did resist!

G

[stimshady]

Racing Green are doing some manifolds which are the same length i believe, for the new FFF, presume they would fit on a standard engine and could be coated too?

Orange would have looked pretty good! Maybe Orange for the cam cover?!

[Barry Ashcroft]

stimshady said:

Racing Green are doing some manifolds which are the same length i believe, for the new FFF, presume they would fit on a standard engine and could be coated too?

Have you seen the price (Double)

[stimshady]

double!?? ok, might give 'em a miss...

[dvs_dave]

VARLEYHYD said:

For a lasting job go for plasma ceramic coating £460-500 with cats, loads of colours if you want.
Nuclear power station spec.

Cheaper available but will dissapear and chalk in time



G

Nice! My car has been decatted so would you recommend getting the coating done to the manifolds and the de-cat pipes and leave the rest as standard? Did zircotec provide a drive-in/drive-out service or did you have to take the exhaust to them separately? Reason I ask is because I've not got the facilities to remove the exhausts myself.

I'm also a bit worried that the uncoated sections of the exhaust under the car would get too hot and damage things further back as the heat has to go somewhere. Have you addressed this in any way or is it not an issue?

[VARLEYHYD]

dvs_dave said:

My car has been decatted so would you recommend getting the coating done to the manifolds and the de-cat pipes and leave the rest as standard? Did zircotec provide a drive-in/drive-out service or did you have to take the exhaust to them separately? Reason I ask is because I've not got the facilities to remove the exhausts myself.

I'm also a bit worried that the uncoated sections of the exhaust under the car would get too hot and damage things further back as the heat has to go somewhere. Have you addressed this in any way or is it not an issue?

It's a big job, I think TVR Power or STR8-SIX would take the engine nearly, or totally out as its a tricky job to get the manifolds off.

Zircotec don't usually deal with the public, so its probably best to deal through someone like Jason.

If you do it as part of other upgrades when the engine is out its easy.

Jason suggest you do the de-cats as well. The rest of exhaust is OK and not an issue but make sure you have chassis protection 'waffle heat sheild' fitted.

G

[willtvr]

TVR_owner said:

dvs_dave said:

I'm seriously considering having my exhaust manifolds ceramic coated.

How far along the exhausts should you go with the coating, just up to the collector on each manifold or further back? Does it result in higher temperatures further along the exhaust and is this problematic?

Also, for those who've had it done, who did it for you and what sort of price should I be paying? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers

You would be advised to do something with the cats as they are a source of heat. As a result of sucessfull thermal insulation you will see extra thermal growth in the system. As to it being a problem depends on the system itself.

I had some done last year - expensive and poor. Lasted a number of months before starting to show signs of coating breakdown.

Camcoat?

[TVR_owner]

It was camcoat Iain.

[willtvr]

TVR_owner said:

It was camcoat Iain.

Thats unfortunate, just had mine done via HHC! What's the warranty although I'm very sceptical about warranties at the moment?

[TVR_owner]

willtvr said:

TVR_owner said:

It was camcoat Iain.

Thats unfortunate, just had mine done via HHC! What's the warranty although I'm very sceptical about warranties at the moment?

I didn't enquire Iain, I just shot the sytsem and replaced it with a new stainless set-up. To be fair mine was a mild steel system and it was not new. They may have been a little worired about blasting before application. Camcoat are normally very good for coatings so I was suprised.

[Barry Ashcroft]

I've had several V8 systems done by Camcoat and never had a problem, They where all brand new when coated so that might be the reason.

[TVR_owner]

Barry Ashcroft said:

I've had several V8 systems done by Camcoat and never had a problem, They where all brand new when coated so that might be the reason.

I opted for Camcoat for their reputation and I suspect that the pipework not being new maybe the case for a short lived coating. Must say I was left less than impressed for the money and cant rember anydiscussion on surface reparation concerns that would have impacted the coating life.

I don't think I'll use them again.

[T450t]

TVR_owner said:

Barry Ashcroft said:

I've had several V8 systems done by Camcoat and never had a problem, They where all brand new when coated so that might be the reason.

I opted for Camcoat for their reputation and I suspect that the pipework not being new maybe the case for a short lived coating. Must say I was left less than impressed for the money and cant rember anydiscussion on surface reparation concerns that would have impacted the coating life.

I don't think I'll use them again.

I am suprised you did not co your usual in depth homework on the coating of your manifolds John. Zircotec's system is the professionals choice, F1 and the nuclear power industry for example.

[TVR_owner]

T450t said:

TVR_owner said:

Barry Ashcroft said:

I've had several V8 systems done by Camcoat and never had a problem, They where all brand new when coated so that might be the reason.

I opted for Camcoat for their reputation and I suspect that the pipework not being new maybe the case for a short lived coating. Must say I was left less than impressed for the money and cant rember anydiscussion on surface reparation concerns that would have impacted the coating life.

I don't think I'll use them again.

I am suprised you did not co your usual in depth homework on the coating of your manifolds John. Zircotec's system is the professionals choice, F1 and the nuclear power industry for example.

Hi Mark,
Too bloody busy earning a crust...

[dvs_dave]

VARLEYHYD said:

dvs_dave said:

My car has been decatted so would you recommend getting the coating done to the manifolds and the de-cat pipes and leave the rest as standard? Did zircotec provide a drive-in/drive-out service or did you have to take the exhaust to them separately? Reason I ask is because I've not got the facilities to remove the exhausts myself.

I'm also a bit worried that the uncoated sections of the exhaust under the car would get too hot and damage things further back as the heat has to go somewhere. Have you addressed this in any way or is it not an issue?

It's a big job, I think TVR Power or STR8-SIX would take the engine nearly, or totally out as its a tricky job to get the manifolds off.

Zircotec don't usually deal with the public, so its probably best to deal through someone like Jason.

If you do it as part of other upgrades when the engine is out its easy.

Jason suggest you do the de-cats as well. The rest of exhaust is OK and not an issue but make sure you have chassis protection 'waffle heat sheild' fitted.

G

Hmmm, engine out job you reckon? Not so sure the benefits justify the cost if that's the case, especially if new headers are needed to ensure the quality of the coating?

Circa £1.5-2k all in for a "nice to have" is not quite what I had in mind!

[smithyl23]

VARLEYHYD said:

dvs_dave said:

My car has been decatted so would you recommend getting the coating done to the manifolds and the de-cat pipes and leave the rest as standard? Did zircotec provide a drive-in/drive-out service or did you have to take the exhaust to them separately? Reason I ask is because I've not got the facilities to remove the exhausts myself.

I'm also a bit worried that the uncoated sections of the exhaust under the car would get too hot and damage things further back as the heat has to go somewhere. Have you addressed this in any way or is it not an issue?

It's a big job, I think TVR Power or STR8-SIX would take the engine nearly, or totally out as its a tricky job to get the manifolds off.

Zircotec don't usually deal with the public, so its probably best to deal through someone like Jason.

If you do it as part of other upgrades when the engine is out its easy.

Jason suggest you do the de-cats as well. The rest of exhaust is OK and not an issue but make sure you have chassis protection 'waffle heat sheild' fitted.

G

Got mine done by zircotec, also through Jason @ STR8 Six. Got mine matt black as well. Look really good!