Throttle Pot adjustment

Throttle Pot adjustment

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Buffoon

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879 posts

210 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Finally got diagnostic software up and running tonight.

Speed six software guide states that to reset throttle pots select 'reset throttle' in ecu tools menu. Was not there, so reset adaptives next best thing.

On tickover reading fluctuating around 15.2 or so as they should.

As you slowly increase rpm, No1 creeps up first and then No.2 lags behind causing imbalance in readings of around 8% at 2500 rpm or there abouts.

Is this a problem? Any ideas?

Peppe

376 posts

227 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Buffoon said:
Finally got diagnostic software up and running tonight.

Speed six software guide states that to reset throttle pots select 'reset throttle' in ecu tools menu. Was not there, so reset adaptives next best thing.

You have the old version of the software (blue Cerbera in the background). Download the newer software and the manual for it from Byker28i:s homepage.

Buffoon said:
On tickover reading fluctuating around 15.2 or so as they should.
Looks correct

Buffoon said:
As you slowly increase rpm, No1 creeps up first and then No.2 lags behind causing imbalance in readings of around 8% at 2500 rpm or there abouts.

Is this a problem? Any ideas
Yes, that will give a problem with the balance of the fueling of engine.

Get a syncrometer and balance the throttles, then start to work with the software. If the inbalance in the readings still occur you have to change the faulty throttle pot. If you do not know how to balance the throttles leave it to a specialist.

Buffoon

Original Poster:

879 posts

210 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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Hi Peppe

The software was the Yellow Cerb, but when you open the program you see a blue cerb?

Have balanced the throttles as they were badly out, hence I needed to reset the pots. Does your software definitely say 'Reset Throttles'? Irrespective it looks like I will need a replacement, No.1 thankfully.

Thanks to your previous work on the software I managed to get it working, so well done.

Peppe

376 posts

227 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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If you press help and then about, you should have ver no 1.72 on the software. It is easy to change the background to what ever you want, it is just a bitmap picture.
I have several pictures of a yellow Cerb in the background while the software is running.

Under the ECU tools meny I have reset throttle pots as a choice that is all the way down in the menu.


Buffoon

Original Poster:

879 posts

210 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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OK Thanks. Looks like I may need to clear everthing off and start again, but at least I know what I am doing now - I hope.

Buffoon

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879 posts

210 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Proper software up and running last night. Clearly I was being a bit of a Buffoon.

Reset Throttles and still the same issue. Have raised the Idle slightly, reducing the effective dead-zone on the pot, but a new pot will be required I believe. Have noticed the engine has become tappetty in the lower rev range where I have the issue. Suspect 1,2 and 3 are running weak mixture though could be the reverse if ECU over compensating. May need to get tappets done again if valves have been overheating.

Peppe

376 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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How does the maps look ?

Remember to do a balancing of the throttles before you start to use the software to reset things when you have changed the throttle pot.

Buffoon

Original Poster:

879 posts

210 months

Friday 1st August 2008
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New pot made little difference.

Throttles were balanced on idle prior. Considering balancing 1 and 6 on the laptop with throttles 1/2 open and ignition on but engine not running then working from there. Alternatively white pot needs replacing, then start afresh. Readings balanced on idle and at high revs, i.e extremes of potentiometer miper movement. It's the idle to 3000 rpm range that is poor. When pot 1 reads 18, pot 2 is around 26-27, and adaptives show around +18 and -4. Figures approx as working from memory. Lambdas seem fine.

Maybe concerned needlessly but I expect close tolerences on such a fresh engine.

May take her back for services and get tappets and followers checked rather than waste more time balancing.

scooterscot

137 posts

214 months

Saturday 2nd August 2008
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Adaptives should be less than 10% but 5% is possible. Tappets have to be correct or you will get problems and never get good adaptive values. When setting throttle pots you have to start at the centre/cable link and then move outwards or you will not take up the lost motion this is often the reason for a slow response on one pot.