KABOOM!!! engine has let go...

KABOOM!!! engine has let go...

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GALLARDOGUY

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8,160 posts

225 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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my engine has let go. i was on the motorway & it stuttered & started billowing white smoke from the area of the left exhaust (not sure if it was from the exhaust itself). on pulling over it was losing its coolant but no oil loss.

firstly, does anyone have any idea of what the problem may be?

and

secondly, i have contacted a local tvr specialist & have been quoted £1500 + vat just to open the engine up & diagnose the problem!

that seems steep to me, to say the least!

i'm based in essex, does anyone have any recommendations of knowlegdable independents that could help? i know about leven but they have a 6 week waiting list!

i was told by a cateram racer about some guys who are ex mole valley tvr technicians who have set up shop not too far away (cambridge i think it was). does anyone know of them?

any help would be much appreciated.

MarkoTVR

1,139 posts

240 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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Where was the coolant being lost from? Just throwing the question in, but was it definitely smoke and not water vapour?

Andy11

193 posts

232 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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theres an ex-factory technician down there in Henley, STR8 SIX, TEL. Jason on 07834739307, comes well recomended.

tamore

7,578 posts

290 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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http://www.tvrspareparts.com/service-centres/

should show the places near you who can sort this out.

GALLARDOGUY

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

225 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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MarkoTVR said:
Where was the coolant being lost from? Just throwing the question in, but was it definitely smoke and not water vapour?
form the centre of the engine, maybe slightly to the left side. the smoke was very white & stopped as soon as engine was turned off. had to back the car up slightly to let the tow truck get infront & there was no diagnostic codes showing & it squirted out a bit more coolant. no oil loss at at any time.

Far Eastender

1,361 posts

224 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Try Leven Technology is Basildon

GALLARDOGUY

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

225 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Far Eastender said:
Try Leven Technology is Basildon
thanks but see original post. 6 week waiting list to get in there!

Far Eastender

1,361 posts

224 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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some things are worth waiting for.

Odysseus

13 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Hi,

Sorry to hear about your engine woes. I`m afraid it sounds like a classic speed six engine implosion to me.

I may have a solution for you. I have recently had a fresh speed six engine built for me to a fantastic specification.

My intention was to slot it into my 2003 Tamora but financial pressures have forced me very reluctantly to sell the new unit and continue running my existing engine.

The work was executed by Dulford Automotive in Devon. A highly respected TVR engine/tuning/service specialist.

I have outlined a brief specification below but Richard at Dulford with whom the engine is located will be happy to give you a complete specification. If required, Dulford are fully equipped to install the engine for you and of course this would avoid protracted rebuild time.

Engine cost circa £11,000 to build but I will accept large discount on this price for quick sale.


Dulford Automotive: 01884 266675 www.dulfordauto.co.uk


Engine specification.


Full rebuild by Dulford Automotive

Gas flowed & ported cylinder head

Block honed and bored to 3.8 litres with uprated lubrication

4 bolt main cap engine block (much stronger than standard)

New JE forged pistons

New scat forged con rods

Chilled iron cam shafts

Uprated finger followers/valves






x 7usc

1,423 posts

201 months

Saturday 26th July 2008
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Andy11 said:
theres an ex-factory technician down there in Henley, STR8 SIX, TEL. Jason on 07834739307, comes well recomended.
did a fantastic job on mine, happy to highly recomend thumbup

Targarama

14,654 posts

289 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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Hard luck. Sounds like a heat gasket from your description.

GALLARDOGUY

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

225 months

Saturday 2nd August 2008
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just had compression test & coolant tests done & cranked it over.

coolant spewed out of the passenger side exhaust when i started it up, as well as dropping some coolant at back end of engine.

no 'mayonnaise' in oil top up chamber though.

i think i vaguely remember that No.6 cylinder failure is the most common?

is that the case?

obvioulsy i need to open the engine up, but does this sound like a routine engine failiure?

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

197 months

Saturday 2nd August 2008
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It sounds like a head gasket failure. Mayo is normally only present if the breach is between an oilway and a waterway, your's sounds like a breach between a waterway and the cylinder.

Targarama

14,654 posts

289 months

Saturday 2nd August 2008
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My headgasket failed in the same way, not sure which cylinder, but it was the same 'symptoms'. Engine out, repaired (by factory FOC in my case as under warranty). Mine went on a track day, so under more stress than usual.

GALLARDOGUY

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

225 months

Monday 4th August 2008
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thanks for those replies.

forgive my ignornace but a head gasket failure wont entail a full rebuild will it?

what will it cost to repair? ball park figure obviously...

Targarama

14,654 posts

289 months

Monday 4th August 2008
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For some reason work on the Speed Six seems to cost the earth, its only an engine, and the parts are available to buy...

Note that the ngine has to come out to access all the bits - 1/2 day to get it out, a day to put it back. In theory a headgasket is pretty straightforward just like any other car, but it depends whether you have other problems which caused, or were caused by the failure. Cracked head, valve damage or whatever.

Jediworrier

434 posts

194 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Targarama said:
For some reason work on the Speed Six seems to cost the earth, its only an engine, and the parts are available to buy...

Note that the ngine has to come out to access all the bits - 1/2 day to get it out, a day to put it back.
You have to take the engine out to access all the bits?!!?! I wish I knew this before I took my head off with the engine in situ!

JR

12,725 posts

264 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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Jediworrier said:
You have to take the engine out to access all the bits?!!?! I wish I knew this before I took my head off with the engine in situ!
I guess that the label on the head gasket shelf must read "retirement fund."

Targarama

14,654 posts

289 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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Jediworrier said:
Targarama said:
For some reason work on the Speed Six seems to cost the earth, its only an engine, and the parts are available to buy...

Note that the ngine has to come out to access all the bits - 1/2 day to get it out, a day to put it back.
You have to take the engine out to access all the bits?!!?! I wish I knew this before I took my head off with the engine in situ!
Oh good - now we know it is possible!

Jediworrier

434 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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Targarama said:
Oh good - now we know it is possible!
Not only is it possible but it's possible in a diy bods garage, I have no mechanical training whatsoever and used a standard tool kit. smile


Edit to add - I lied, I had to make a tool to release the fromt pulley!

Edited by Jediworrier on Tuesday 12th August 23:20