Self Service 2000 Cerbera Speed6

[JAKIRE]

Hi all can someone recommend

what
Oil Filter
Spark Plugs
Air filter
coolent etc
and what ever else I might need for to services myself


The car had its last services at 64454 miles and Full Rebuild at the same time by STR8 Henley

[MarkoTVR]

Seriouly wouldn't, if I were you. I'm not doubting your competence, as I've no idea what your background is, but then I'm not buying your car. If you want to sell it later on, with the issues the Speed6 has had, potential buyers may be quite twitchy if there's a gap in the known specialist history for the car.

Also, you'll need to check the valve clearances at the pre-defined intervals and adjust them as necessary.

Edited by MarkoTVR on Wednesday 2nd July 22:53

[Peppe]

JAKIRE said:

Hi all can someone recommend

what
Oil Filter
Spark Plugs
Air filter
coolent etc
and what ever else I might need for to services myself


The car had its last services at 64454 miles and Full Rebuild at the same time by STR8 Henley

You can get all the parts You need for service from Clever Trevor.
There are service schedules you can get from their homepage and i think you can find it on byker28i:s home page too.

[Peppe]

MarkoTVR said:

Seriouly wouldn't, if I were you. I'm not doubting your competence, as I've no idea what your background is, but then I'm not buying your car. If you want to sell it later on, with the issues the Speed6 has had, potential buyers may be quite twitchy if there's a gap in the known specialist history for the car.

Also, you'll need to check the valve clearances at the pre-defined intervals and adjust them as necessary.

Edited by MarkoTVR on Wednesday 2nd July 22:53

I do all the service to my car by myself (but I have no plans to sell it either, just keep it for as long as possible).

My car had a full TVRSH and a factory engine rebuild 2 weeks earlier when i bought it. The engine was taken out and put in by the dealer that had been servicing the car since new. The car still wasn´t in the condition you would think a full serviced car would be.
As an example the chassiplates undernetath the car was lowered by using M12 locking nuts as distances on the M10 bolts that hold the plate. They had done this to get more space for the exhaust which is a pain the ... to adjust so it won´t come to close to chassis and start to rattle. I don´t think solutions like that is what you pay for at a service center for any brand of a car, to me it looks very much as it is done by a amateur. At that point I can do all the work by myself and know what is done and how it is done. It probably takes me a longer time to do it, but I think it is, if you have some skills, possible to do the service by yourself and do a good job.

If I would buy another TVR or advice somebody buying a TVR I would look att the condition of the car, see if there are receits for service parts and so on and not care to much of the service history.
The best is if the owner also has some kind of documentation what is done to car even if the owner have done the work by him/herself.

[JAKIRE]

Thanks Guys I sorted now

[MarkoTVR]

Peppe said:

I do all the service to my car by myself (but I have no plans to sell it either, just keep it for as long as possible).

My car had a full TVRSH and a factory engine rebuild 2 weeks earlier when i bought it. The engine was taken out and put in by the dealer that had been servicing the car since new. The car still wasn´t in the condition you would think a full serviced car would be.
As an example the chassiplates undernetath the car was lowered by using M12 locking nuts as distances on the M10 bolts that hold the plate. They had done this to get more space for the exhaust which is a pain the ... to adjust so it won´t come to close to chassis and start to rattle. I don´t think solutions like that is what you pay for at a service center for any brand of a car, to me it looks very much as it is done by a amateur. At that point I can do all the work by myself and know what is done and how it is done. It probably takes me a longer time to do it, but I think it is, if you have some skills, possible to do the service by yourself and do a good job.

If I would buy another TVR or advice somebody buying a TVR I would look att the condition of the car, see if there are receits for service parts and so on and not care to much of the service history.
The best is if the owner also has some kind of documentation what is done to car even if the owner have done the work by him/herself.

Cool, I do know where you're coming from as every car before my last two I did all the servicing myself too. Sounds like you've had a dodgy experience there, so no wonder you want to go for a bit of DIY.
Other than not having the time now to regularly spend on my cars, for me I'd want to preserve the service history on something like a TVR, although if you're keeping it until it dies it I guess doesn't matter. Guess I'm just being the 'sceptical buyer'!

Edited by MarkoTVR on Sunday 6th July 08:37

[scooterscot]

Much of the sevicing on a speed six engined car is quite simple to do but you need a ramp to do it and cover all the work that is needed to keep the car safe. The exhaust HAS to come off and all the suspension and drive train bolts need to be checked. the throttle bodies have to be balanced (need the kit) 12k you need to do the tappets do you have the kit and the knowledge, do you know what to look for to give you warning about possible trouble ahead? Do you know how much wear on a brake disc is safe how much wear on a bush is OK. Do you have £15000-00 alignement kit to check the suspension set up,it needs done every 6000 miles. I know from seeing work done by poor dealers and I am sure anyone could do better but if you want your car correct and safe find a GOOD DEALER YOU TRUST. The other alternative is to study work with and learn about the cars from a professional, buy a ramp and all the other equipment you need £30000-00 should get you started.

Edited by scooterscot on Saturday 19th July 17:06

[chimaera]

Have no fear in servicing the car yourself. All the kit is easily available as the filters etc are all from run of the mill motors. (Try tvrsupplies on ebay for a speed service kit - £75 for all filters, plugs etc) Then get onto some of the great websites like the sagaris pages etc for any info you are not sure of - the engine is not a complicated beast so easy enough if you are a competent DIY'er.
I just did the service on my Tuscan, took a couple of days but at least I know it is all done to my standards - my last service experience put me off dealers for life!! I got there with them having had the car for 6 weeks, to find the battery flat, the radio broken, the speedo not working and a good load of water in the footwells. (none of these faults were on the car when it went in!!) They then proceeded to charge me a small fortune and drill a hole in both footwalls to let the water out.
Can do without that sort of grief in my life!!

[johnbear]

To my knowledge I wasn't aware the suspenion setup was part of the service schedule. I can't every recall seing it done at previous services.

You can get it done at Demon Tweeks or the like with their laser system for £90.

[VARLEYHYD]

johnbear said:

To my knowledge I wasn't aware the suspension setup was part of the service schedule. I can't every recall seing it done at previous services.

It should/must be 6k/12 months, done correctly:-

'Check/adjust tracking front & rear'
'Check/adjust cambers front & rear'


G

Edited by VARLEYHYD on Saturday 2nd August 11:20

[scooterscot]

In reply to Chimaera.Quote "At least I know its all done to my standard" I have to assume that he has suspension set up kit,throttle balancing kit a laptop with the the correct programme to check and adjust the throttle pots and the adaptive values.These are only a few of the things that a good dealer service would cover. Did the home service cover the removal of the exhaust,the removal of the catch tank filter or the testing of the coolant and all the other work that has to be carried out? How do did you manage to check the suspension and transmission for wear and security without a wheel free ramp. Do you have a wheel free ramp? I go back to your statement, do you mean the parts of the service you have done are all done to your standards or do you have ALL the facilities that a good dealer requires to do the complete service?

[trackcar]

Honestly you'd think TVR were some kind of weird techno car from some of the replies! They're VERY easy to work on .. I actively encourage owners to get involved with their car, it makes them part of the experience and puts them more in tune with their own car.

I say go ahead and service your own Cerbie, there's no-one knows your car better than you .. if you have something on your car which is giving you concern and you think you may be out of your depth then there's no problem asking for help or taking to a garage at that point, but please don't be afraid to get stuck in there. From my experience of some TVR garages out there you'll probably do a damn sight better job!

Doing SP6 valve clearances is one of the easiest cars you'll come across, the only awkward bit is the rear cylinder, and just make sure you stuff some cloth down the rear of the cylinder head in case you drop a shim, but other than that it's a breeze.

Similarly setting the individual airflows up .. start from the centre and work your way outwards and you'll soon have it licked! I also don't see the need for 15 grands worth of suspension alignment tools, I coped for 2 years with a wooden frame and threaded rod adjusters and a camber gauge made from a protractor a length of string and a piece of MDF.

Apply a bit of thought, don't be afraid to ask for help/advice should you require it, but most of all don't be afraid to have a go

You already have one valuable trait that's missing from a spotty 18 year old oik at a garage : enthusiasm to do a good job on your own car.

[KillerJim]

I would love to see a good "how-to" pictorial guide for working on the S6 engine, things such as throttle pot adjustments/replacement, checking valve clearances, etc.

For now I`m just going to sit through the servicing with my local TVR servicer and learn that way.

[VARLEYHYD]

KillerJim said:

I would love to see a good "how-to" pictorial guide for working on the S6 engine, things such as throttle pot adjustments/replacement, checking valve clearances, etc.

Oh that would be nice

Working on it Jim,
Hopefully ready at end of track season
Any photos you get, mail them to me for inclusion in the sag manual

G

[KillerJim]

I`m going to get my hands on 2 of them

To be honest my attempt to get "under the hood" of my Sagaris has been hampered by my lack of garage - coupled with the housing market problems, it looks like I`ll have to wait a year before I get where I can built a decent garage..

J

[Jediworrier]

MarkoTVR said:

for me I'd want to preserve the service history on something like a TVR, although if you're keeping it until it dies it I guess doesn't matter. Guess I'm just being the 'sceptical buyer'!

Edited by MarkoTVR on Sunday 6th July 08:37

I'd not be too keen to ask a so called 'TVR approved garage' to work on my engine again having seen the butchery they've already caused and their inability to find a couple of obvious faults but each to their own. Obviously some garages are better than others but don't for one minute believe you're handing your car to someone that knows what they're doing!

[KillerJim]

Jediworrier said:

MarkoTVR said:

for me I'd want to preserve the service history on something like a TVR, although if you're keeping it until it dies it I guess doesn't matter. Guess I'm just being the 'sceptical buyer'!

Edited by MarkoTVR on Sunday 6th July 08:37

I'd not be too keen to ask a so called 'TVR approved garage' to work on my engine again having seen the butchery they've already caused and their inability to find a couple of obvious faults but each to their own. Obviously some garages are better than others but don't for one minute believe you're handing your car to someone that knows what they're doing!

Agreed, thats why I`ll not be using my local TVR sales garage to do my servicing - I went on the recommendation of people here and some long-term TVR owners in Ireland.

J