TVR Power planning 4.3L Speed Six
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Just scanned the article in this month's Sprint (December issue). Says they're running a 4.0L version of the engine in a test Sagaris, planning for 4.3.
The options to those looking to upgrade keep appearing. This is great news.
Please don't let this turn into a negative thread on why one persons trunnions are better than anothers...
The options to those looking to upgrade keep appearing. This is great news.
Please don't let this turn into a negative thread on why one persons trunnions are better than anothers...
no, sorry Holmsie - didn't mean to hijack the thread. I got an email from Power about their exchange/rebuilt SP6 program. I am assuming 4L but they might have a 3.6L all-in price too. I haven't checked their website yet so you might get more info on there, www.tvrpower.co.uk
Andy
Andy
If you don't get Sprint then you're not a member of the TVRCC. So join, then you'll find out.
No pricing on the new engine in the article btw, but I'm sure it will be expensive with a custom crank.
I assume the price quoted above is for a std replacement engine. I agree it is steep, and can't work out what costs so much. But I see it as not as expensive as a Porsche engine.
No pricing on the new engine in the article btw, but I'm sure it will be expensive with a custom crank.
I assume the price quoted above is for a std replacement engine. I agree it is steep, and can't work out what costs so much. But I see it as not as expensive as a Porsche engine.
holmsie said:
Do you have anymore details of this please, as i don't get sprint.
Is the £7500 + extras going to be the price for a 4.3 version?
NO! on ther emailing list and got this today:-Is the £7500 + extras going to be the price for a 4.3 version?
We now are offering Full rebuild exchanged Speed six engines these units come with 2 yrs unlimited mileage warranty.
Please note front cover and rocker cover will not be new unless requested.
Exchange unit prior to inspection £7500.00 + vat + delivery
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Does make you laugh (and the above does not include removing and fitting).
Hilarious - what is another 300cc going to do!!!! I'd want a few engines for that price!
jellison said:
holmsie said:
Do you have anymore details of this please, as i don't get sprint.
Is the £7500 + extras going to be the price for a 4.3 version?
NO! on ther emailing list and got this today:-Is the £7500 + extras going to be the price for a 4.3 version?
We now are offering Full rebuild exchanged Speed six engines these units come with 2 yrs unlimited mileage warranty.
Please note front cover and rocker cover will not be new unless requested.
Exchange unit prior to inspection £7500.00 + vat + delivery
====================================================================
Does make you laugh (and the above does not include removing and fitting).
Hilarious - what is another 300cc going to do!!!! I'd want a few engines for that price!
Initial thoughts are that it does sound like an awful lot of money at probably close to 10K.
But. If the rebuild includes the almost now standard reliability mods, a new billet crank, H section rods, forged pistons, uprated clutch, new hi-spec valves, trick cams and valve gear, reworked head, bigger injectors, a carbon induction and custom remap..... you can see where some of the money is.
But. If the rebuild includes the almost now standard reliability mods, a new billet crank, H section rods, forged pistons, uprated clutch, new hi-spec valves, trick cams and valve gear, reworked head, bigger injectors, a carbon induction and custom remap..... you can see where some of the money is.
Daftlad said:
Initial thoughts are that it does sound like an awful lot of money at probably close to 10K.
But. If the rebuild includes the almost now standard reliability mods, a new billet crank, H section rods, forged pistons, uprated clutch, new hi-spec valves, trick cams and valve gear, reworked head, bigger injectors, a carbon induction and custom remap..... you can see where some of the money is.
You are assuming alot there (above).But. If the rebuild includes the almost now standard reliability mods, a new billet crank, H section rods, forged pistons, uprated clutch, new hi-spec valves, trick cams and valve gear, reworked head, bigger injectors, a carbon induction and custom remap..... you can see where some of the money is.
The stuff I was sent was for a std spec internal engine (no steel crank or billet rod or ANY of the nice trick stuff). If you want the above it will be alot more than 10k (my 4 and 6 engines are a heck of alot more than that!).
DAFT!
jellison said:
Daftlad said:
Initial thoughts are that it does sound like an awful lot of money at probably close to 10K.
But. If the rebuild includes the almost now standard reliability mods, a new billet crank, H section rods, forged pistons, uprated clutch, new hi-spec valves, trick cams and valve gear, reworked head, bigger injectors, a carbon induction and custom remap..... you can see where some of the money is.
You are assuming alot there (above).But. If the rebuild includes the almost now standard reliability mods, a new billet crank, H section rods, forged pistons, uprated clutch, new hi-spec valves, trick cams and valve gear, reworked head, bigger injectors, a carbon induction and custom remap..... you can see where some of the money is.
The stuff I was sent was for a std spec internal engine (no steel crank or billet rod or ANY of the nice trick stuff). If you want the above it will be alot more than 10k (my 4 and 6 engines are a heck of alot more than that!).
DAFT!
I'll just leave mine standard for now.
YI8TVR said:
Just read the article and looks good news all round. A couple of things though
How much, I guess 15k or there abouts.
What is this new 4.3 developing BHP and Torque ?
It is notgoing to make more than 10% more tha a std lump is it at best (the capacity rise is only 7.5% - add on 2.5 which seem reasonable for a tad wilder cam (steel component do not make power - just been the engine will stay together a bit longerHow much, I guess 15k or there abouts.
What is this new 4.3 developing BHP and Torque ?
while making that power).Std lumps (Sag ones) make about 360 - 370 max (and alot of them less than this)bhp and about 310ft/lbs at fairly high revs (don't beleive anyone when they say they have much more than this - I know what mine will do from a standing start to silly speeds next to a Std Well run in Sag lump).
Better ways to spend 15k!!! ALOT BETTER.
davido140 said:
the "exchange" engine isnt an appaling deal, remember you could be sending them an utterly useless lump of metal in return.
They will rebuild your own lump for a lot less than 7.5k.
So why would anyone NOT do that then - it will be the same!They will rebuild your own lump for a lot less than 7.5k.
Interesting no word of how much the tricked up 4.3 is then if the exchange is 7.5 + vat and basically a fresh std spec one. Will be crazy cash that you could almost do and LS2 /6 conversion for and get Huge power and a proper V8 where it belongs.
jellison said:
... a proper V8 where it belongs.
That would be in a Rover powered car car then. Why would a S6 car be "the proper place" for a V8? TVR engines have been a right old mix over the years, and just because Griffs and Chimaeras had V8 lumps doesn't mean they should all have them. IMHO of course.Still, it's a lot of money for the engine. Probably need to spend a few grand on a well-built wiring loom as well to get decent all-round reliability, since the only time my TVRs let me down, it was silly little electrical faults, not engine problems. But perhaps I was one of the lucky ones.
jellison said:
davido140 said:
the "exchange" engine isnt an appaling deal, remember you could be sending them an utterly useless lump of metal in return.
They will rebuild your own lump for a lot less than 7.5k.
So why would anyone NOT do that then - it will be the same!They will rebuild your own lump for a lot less than 7.5k.
Interesting no word of how much the tricked up 4.3 is then if the exchange is 7.5 + vat and basically a fresh std spec one. Will be crazy cash that you could almost do and LS2 /6 conversion for and get Huge power and a proper V8 where it belongs.
Please don't ruin a good topic. Any development on the speed 6 is good development.
Edited by YI8TVR on Thursday 13th December 10:06
Well said Y18.
I wonder if the TVR Power engines will be uber reliable .. if they are (and it'll be great if they are !) then I would imagine that a good condition T car with a SP6 powerplant will command a nice premium over a V8 powered conversion, so some of that 7.5 would be recouped compared to a converted car, plus you had the pleasure of driving your T car as TVR intended.
I'm not knocking conversions (I have done a fair few conversions on other cars in my time) but I'm sure 99.9% of T car owners with engine probs just want a reliable version of the car they originally bought (I acknowledge the high number of owners of cars with no problems here, I'm sure they would never change to LS power ..)
I wonder if the TVR Power engines will be uber reliable .. if they are (and it'll be great if they are !) then I would imagine that a good condition T car with a SP6 powerplant will command a nice premium over a V8 powered conversion, so some of that 7.5 would be recouped compared to a converted car, plus you had the pleasure of driving your T car as TVR intended.
I'm not knocking conversions (I have done a fair few conversions on other cars in my time) but I'm sure 99.9% of T car owners with engine probs just want a reliable version of the car they originally bought (I acknowledge the high number of owners of cars with no problems here, I'm sure they would never change to LS power ..)
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