New Version of the Speed Six engine

[Jay Ayegees]

Hi

As reported in Sprint there is to be a new version of the Speed 6 engine fitted to the 4000 plus TVRs to be produced in 2008.

The block will be retained but it will have twin cams and Variable Valve Timing, etc.

Will this overnight solve all the Speed Six woes?

What effect will this have on the existing Speed 6 TVRs?

Jay

[warpig1]

Jay Ayegees said:

Hi

As reported in Sprint there is to be a new version of the Speed 6 engine fitted to the 4000 plus TVRs to be produced in 2008.

The block will be retained but it will have twin cams and Variable Valve Timing, etc.

Will this overnight solve all the Speed Six woes?

What effect will this have on the existing Speed 6 TVRs?

Jay

believe all that old crap if/when it happens. reguards engine strength,i think the s6 is going from strength to strength, just check out the warranty being offered on powers rebuilds.to me thats 'nuf said

[PascalBuyens]

warpig1 said:

Jay Ayegees said:

Hi

As reported in Sprint there is to be a new version of the Speed 6 engine fitted to the 4000 plus TVRs to be produced in 2008.

The block will be retained but it will have twin cams and Variable Valve Timing, etc.

Will this overnight solve all the Speed Six woes?

What effect will this have on the existing Speed 6 TVRs?

Jay

believe all that old crap if/when it happens. reguards engine strength,i think the s6 is going from strength to strength, just check out the warranty being offered on powers rebuilds.to me thats 'nuf said

2 years... And then they go bust after 3 year and a few months.

Edited by PascalBuyens on Friday 11th May 07:56

[t40ora]

Buy one now then!

[_dEEJAY_]

Jay Ayegees said:

Hi

As reported in Sprint there is to be a new version of the Speed 6 engine fitted to the 4000 plus TVRs to be produced in 2008.

The block will be retained but it will have twin cams and Variable Valve Timing, etc.

Will this overnight solve all the Speed Six woes?

What effect will this have on the existing Speed 6 TVRs?

Jay

If you search for some of the threads from the people who worked on the engine at the factory, you'll find that they said this engine (with extra power through Variable Valve etc) had already been completed and tested before the factory closure.

So, I suspect if they could find someone to build it, it's certainly not a pipedream.

[s6boy]

My understanding is that Ricardo completed the new spec engine at least 2 months probably more before the factory closure at a cost of £3m.

[Jay Ayegees]

It sounds like this could be the engine the Speed Six should always have been - I wonder if the revised engine will be made available for retro-fitting?

The originals would then become very expensive boat anchors.

Jay

[jerrytlr]

Jay Ayegees said:

Hi

As reported in Sprint there is to be a new version of the Speed 6 engine fitted to the 4000 plus TVRs to be produced in 2008.

The block will be retained but it will have twin cams and Variable Valve Timing, etc.

Will this overnight solve all the Speed Six woes?

What effect will this have on the existing Speed 6 TVRs?

Jay

...I always assumed the S6 had twin cams already - is this not the case??

Cheers

Jerry

[vyt]

jerrytlr said:

...I always assumed the S6 had twin cams already - is this not the case??

Cheers

Jerry

S6 is Twin Cam 24V

[CiderwithCerbie]

Jay Ayegees said:

It sounds like this could be the engine the Speed Six should always have been - I wonder if the revised engine will be made available for retro-fitting?

The originals would then become very expensive boat anchors.

Jay

Whisper I heard is that will be substantially different at bottom and top-ends, stand vertically and therefore will NOT be available to retro-fit.
ie We still need someone to do the proper re-engineering of the original Speed 6, maybe its TVRcraft (yet to be conclusively proven) maybe it's someone else............

[YI8TVR]

Jay Ayegees said:

It sounds like this could be the engine the Speed Six should always have been - I wonder if the revised engine will be made available for retro-fitting?

The originals would then become very expensive boat anchors.

Jay

Says he with a buick lump that Rover found on the scrap heap? Give it a rest about the SP6, it may never be as reliable as a RV8 but it will certainly blow the doors off it on a track. Its always a trade off.

Mark.

ps It actually makes it worse you being a TVR owner.

[Jay Ayegees]

Sorry I thought I was on the Speed Six Engine forum - silly me!

[YI8TVR]

Jay Ayegees said:

Sorry I thought I was on the Speed Six Engine forum - silly me!

Yes you are, but the thread is about the mk2 not trashing the mk1. Sorry if I come across rude its just that comments like yours cause arguments and are rather tedius as its all been done..

If you drove a sp6 Jay your views would be dramatically different.

Edited by YI8TVR on Sunday 13th May 19:43

[apache]

YI8TVR said:

Jay Ayegees said:

Sorry I thought I was on the Speed Six Engine forum - silly me!

Yes you are, but the thread is about the mk2 not trashing the mk1. Sorry if I come across rude its just that comments like yours cause arguments and are rather tedius as its all been done..

If you drove a sp6 Jay your views would be dramatically different.

Edited by YI8TVR on Sunday 13th May 19:43

As someone who might be interested in a Tuscan, would the general consensus be that the rebuilds solve the problems? and is there a period of manufacture after which the engines are sorted?

[sidewayz]

Jay,why not pop along to the battle of the Sixes? Might help you get a good perspective.

[YI8TVR]

apache said:

YI8TVR said:

Jay Ayegees said:

Sorry I thought I was on the Speed Six Engine forum - silly me!

Yes you are, but the thread is about the mk2 not trashing the mk1. Sorry if I come across rude its just that comments like yours cause arguments and are rather tedius as its all been done..

If you drove a sp6 Jay your views would be dramatically different.

Edited by YI8TVR on Sunday 13th May 19:43

As someone who might be interested in a Tuscan, would the general consensus be that the rebuilds solve the problems? and is there a period of manufacture after which the engines are sorted?

Somewhere between 2003/4 is the general concensus, before that there were quite a few rebuilds due to as I am led to believe rather soft components. Its not unusual for pre 2003/4 to be still runing with over 50k on the clock, I know of one chap who has achieved this and is at every TVR track day.

You be the judge...

Edited to say this has now got off topic so I will shut up..

Edited by YI8TVR on Sunday 13th May 20:01

Edited by YI8TVR on Sunday 13th May 20:08

[Jay Ayegees]

Hi

In light of the news announced in Sprint I was just curious to know everyone's views regarding the proposed Mark 2 Speed Six. Ricardo are highly respected so it is reasonable to assume that the Mark 2 Speed Six would be reliable and bomb-proof.

If it is and it is made available as a retro-fit engine surely rather than perservering with a Mark 1 Speed Six engine which requires periodic rebuilds the preferred option would be to retro-fit a new Mark 2.

In this case does it not at a stroke condemn the Mark 1 Speed Six and the after-market firms rectifying them to the history books?

Jay

[dvs_dave]

Rebuild the original engine to reliable specs for 5k or fit a completely new "Mk2 engine" along with electronics, clutch and gearbox for a likely 20k+.

In reality, not many people are going to go for the replacement option are they?

[JR]

dvs_dave said:

In reality,

They're not even producing a key ring let alone 4,000 all singing engines per year.

[johnbear]

I've just had my cams changed as they appear to be showing a little pitting on the top of the lobes. They were only a year old. What causes this?