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Looking at T350s - they looking temptingly 'cheap' currently. I guess I would prefer an 05 spec S6 engine from TVR. BUT are the Craft rebuilds proven yet ? It is all very quiet which to me means a) not many have been done or b) they are not yet proven.
To see a couple of them go past a year and some 12k miles would be interesting. Have any?
To see a couple of them go past a year and some 12k miles would be interesting. Have any?
Mines 1500 miles in - noticeable increase in performance.
Still keeping it below 5000rpm.
Proven? depends what you want proof of.
Is it a better engine than TVRs?
Well lets see - all the components are lighter and stronger. It's better balanced. The oil feeds improved. The lateral stresses are reduced.
You could take an educated guess now or wait a year until one of us has clocked up 12000 miles.
I'm no engineer, but it was explained to me with pen and paper what was causing individual components to wear and fail in the S6. Once you work out the weakness, providing the fixes is relatively straight forward.
Craft offer a range of replacement components. Listen to what Dave has to say about the engines. (So far all the Craft customers have had slightly differing things upgraded - from simply the head at one end of the scale upto replacing all the engine parts and supercharging it at the other.) Then decide for yourself how much you want to change. It's all off the shelf now, so little or no waiting.
Or wait 12 months to see if I'm wrong.
Al.
Still keeping it below 5000rpm.
Proven? depends what you want proof of.
Is it a better engine than TVRs?
Well lets see - all the components are lighter and stronger. It's better balanced. The oil feeds improved. The lateral stresses are reduced.
You could take an educated guess now or wait a year until one of us has clocked up 12000 miles.
I'm no engineer, but it was explained to me with pen and paper what was causing individual components to wear and fail in the S6. Once you work out the weakness, providing the fixes is relatively straight forward.
Craft offer a range of replacement components. Listen to what Dave has to say about the engines. (So far all the Craft customers have had slightly differing things upgraded - from simply the head at one end of the scale upto replacing all the engine parts and supercharging it at the other.) Then decide for yourself how much you want to change. It's all off the shelf now, so little or no waiting.
Or wait 12 months to see if I'm wrong.
Al.
and miss all of next summer....no way dude... 
gazzab said:
Looking at T350s - they looking temptingly 'cheap' currently. I guess I would prefer an 05 spec S6 engine from TVR. BUT are the Craft rebuilds proven yet ? It is all very quiet which to me means a) not many have been done or b) they are not yet proven.
To see a couple of them go past a year and some 12k miles would be interesting. Have any?
To see a couple of them go past a year and some 12k miles would be interesting. Have any?
Why not see if you can drop an AJP8 in a T350 Gary? - proven engine, good power, nice noise ...
I didn't actually know the answer to your question so I contacted Dave and asked him. The following was his response:
T350 has now done over 10,000miles.
Cerb Speed 6 has 7000 + miles over year ago but was sold in favour of a new house purchase.
1 Tuscan has done a euro trip, 3000 miles in two weeks this year thru the alps and Spain. It averaged 25 mpg. The owner posted up on hear earlier in the year. Craft have just done its 6000 mile servrice 6 weeks ago.
Craft rebuilt an engine for a customer who did his own removal and install.
Craft have rebuilt a head for Sebring International in wisbech.
They have done 3 full entire engine rebuilds (Als above is one of them, mine is another). These had Super clutches and TKO boxes installed and gatwick TVR Installed the other for the customer.
Craft have done 2 AJP8 engines with stage two heads.
2 S6 engines have just gone out in the last 2 weeks and a T350 is going out next week.
Craft also supply their components to the trade.
They are currently building a 5.5ltr supercharged Cerb AJP8 and another S6 engine for Supercharging.
Seems plenty folk believe in their products.....
Rgds
G
T350 has now done over 10,000miles.
Cerb Speed 6 has 7000 + miles over year ago but was sold in favour of a new house purchase.
1 Tuscan has done a euro trip, 3000 miles in two weeks this year thru the alps and Spain. It averaged 25 mpg. The owner posted up on hear earlier in the year. Craft have just done its 6000 mile servrice 6 weeks ago.
Craft rebuilt an engine for a customer who did his own removal and install.
Craft have rebuilt a head for Sebring International in wisbech.
They have done 3 full entire engine rebuilds (Als above is one of them, mine is another). These had Super clutches and TKO boxes installed and gatwick TVR Installed the other for the customer.
Craft have done 2 AJP8 engines with stage two heads.
2 S6 engines have just gone out in the last 2 weeks and a T350 is going out next week.
Craft also supply their components to the trade.
They are currently building a 5.5ltr supercharged Cerb AJP8 and another S6 engine for Supercharging.
Seems plenty folk believe in their products.....
Rgds
G
That'll be me then !
We ran the car in after collecting from 'craft in July, then (after service and a check over) headed straight off on a 3k euro jaunt (FR - CH - IT - FR). I have since taken it to the North of Holland and back (another 1000 miles), plus a load of local stuff. It even survived the legendary traffic jams of LT a few weeks ago ! Mileage since rebuild is now approaching 7k.
We ran the car in after collecting from 'craft in July, then (after service and a check over) headed straight off on a 3k euro jaunt (FR - CH - IT - FR). I have since taken it to the North of Holland and back (another 1000 miles), plus a load of local stuff. It even survived the legendary traffic jams of LT a few weeks ago ! Mileage since rebuild is now approaching 7k.
I bought a new Tamora this April, so have the 36k mile warranty.
The more I read these bl@@dy threads, the more I wish I'd spent £10 less and put a chunk of money in the re-build pot. Then I could be thinking of a nice 4l re-build, or a Craft/Power set of upgrades.
OK, so I probably get NOWHERE NEAR the full potential out of my car as I'm still a TVR newbie, but boys and toys.....
The more I read these bl@@dy threads, the more I wish I'd spent £10 less and put a chunk of money in the re-build pot. Then I could be thinking of a nice 4l re-build, or a Craft/Power set of upgrades.
OK, so I probably get NOWHERE NEAR the full potential out of my car as I'm still a TVR newbie, but boys and toys.....
Afternoon all,
mine is the Cerb mentioned near the top of the thread I believe. Approaching 7k miles since Craft did the business. All good and concur with the above comments. Quite fancy a trip to see Joolz for a re-map etc to optimise the mods - anyone else done this yet?
I have in fact not sold her due to house purchase as reported although that was the plan and I think I may have worked out a way to keep her (just don't tell the missus
)
Glad all others are going well - I think the reason you haven't heard too much news is most Craft customers got a little fed up with all the mud slinging on various forums and quietly got on and beleived in/enjoyed the results from their informed research.
Just my opinion mind but certain operations seem to max their PR and others quietly get on and deliver - each to their own I suppose. Now that Craft have got through the initial research and component sourcing pain (which a few of us 'pioneers' bought into) I suspect their turnaround is much improved and expect many more owners to benefit.
Happy pedalling to you all!
JT
mine is the Cerb mentioned near the top of the thread I believe. Approaching 7k miles since Craft did the business. All good and concur with the above comments. Quite fancy a trip to see Joolz for a re-map etc to optimise the mods - anyone else done this yet?
I have in fact not sold her due to house purchase as reported although that was the plan and I think I may have worked out a way to keep her (just don't tell the missus
) Glad all others are going well - I think the reason you haven't heard too much news is most Craft customers got a little fed up with all the mud slinging on various forums and quietly got on and beleived in/enjoyed the results from their informed research.
Just my opinion mind but certain operations seem to max their PR and others quietly get on and deliver - each to their own I suppose. Now that Craft have got through the initial research and component sourcing pain (which a few of us 'pioneers' bought into) I suspect their turnaround is much improved and expect many more owners to benefit.
Happy pedalling to you all!
JT
J.T. said:
I have in fact not sold her due to house purchase as reported although that was the plan and I think I may have worked out a way to keep her (just don't tell the missus
) JT
Excellent news John, I was hoping you would see the light and hold onto the Cerb....top man indeed.
Take care
G
J.T. said:
Afternoon all,
mine is the Cerb mentioned near the top of the thread I believe. Approaching 7k miles since Craft did the business. All good and concur with the above comments. Quite fancy a trip to see Joolz for a re-map etc to optimise the mods - anyone else done this yet?
I have in fact not sold her due to house purchase as reported although that was the plan and I think I may have worked out a way to keep her (just don't tell the missus)
Glad all others are going well - I think the reason you haven't heard too much news is most Craft customers got a little fed up with all the mud slinging on various forums and quietly got on and beleived in/enjoyed the results from their informed research.
Just my opinion mind but certain operations seem to max their PR and others quietly get on and deliver - each to their own I suppose. Now that Craft have got through the initial research and component sourcing pain (which a few of us 'pioneers' bought into) I suspect their turnaround is much improved and expect many more owners to benefit.
Happy pedalling to you all!
JT
mine is the Cerb mentioned near the top of the thread I believe. Approaching 7k miles since Craft did the business. All good and concur with the above comments. Quite fancy a trip to see Joolz for a re-map etc to optimise the mods - anyone else done this yet?
I have in fact not sold her due to house purchase as reported although that was the plan and I think I may have worked out a way to keep her (just don't tell the missus
) Glad all others are going well - I think the reason you haven't heard too much news is most Craft customers got a little fed up with all the mud slinging on various forums and quietly got on and beleived in/enjoyed the results from their informed research.
Just my opinion mind but certain operations seem to max their PR and others quietly get on and deliver - each to their own I suppose. Now that Craft have got through the initial research and component sourcing pain (which a few of us 'pioneers' bought into) I suspect their turnaround is much improved and expect many more owners to benefit.
Happy pedalling to you all!
JT
Jools doesnt map the speed 6 as I recall. Austec do however...
Mr F
yzf1070 said:
Jools, as in Trackcar Solutions most certainly does remap the S6 MBE ECU. He has done some trickery with my ECU for whan the car goes back to Craft in the new year for the final RR set up session.
Opp's, I though Joo's posted somewhere that he didnt bother with the s6 remap, as there were very little gaines from the Std TVR map.
Mr F
Mr Freefall said:
yzf1070 said:
Jools, as in Trackcar Solutions most certainly does remap the S6 MBE ECU. He has done some trickery with my ECU for whan the car goes back to Craft in the new year for the final RR set up session.
Opp's, I though Joo's posted somewhere that he didnt bother with the s6 remap, as there were very little gaines from the Std TVR map.
Mr F
Nope what i say is i don't remap std SP6 cars as there's too little gain for the money. I just can't bring myself to do it .
once mods are involved though it becomes a different matter as you need to get the best from the mods and then remapping becomes important. But the std cars are incredibly nicely mapped to begin with, gains are typically 10hp or so on a 360hp car ... if youve gained more you had a fault there which required fixing anyway! That isn't a mapping gain
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