Blueprint Speed 6 Engines

Blueprint Speed 6 Engines

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rfisher

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5,024 posts

288 months

Tuesday 1st August 2006
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Do such beasts exist?

How can you tell if you've got one?

Were all demonstrator cars blueprinted?

I gots to know.

_Deejay_

4,955 posts

259 months

Tuesday 1st August 2006
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rfisher said:
Do such beasts exist?

How can you tell if you've got one?

Were all demonstrator cars blueprinted?

I gots to know.


Yes - they exist

How can you tell? Dunno - ask the factory/pull the engine to bits

I don't think so. Rumour has it some dealers always got 'quick engines' while others didn't. Chris Watton's was a demo and that is blueprinted (IIRC)

D

rfisher

Original Poster:

5,024 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Mine was a demo from Cheltenham TVR.

When I rang them up before buying it asking about blueprint engines they denied all knowledge of such things.

It's a bit like the X-files trying to get hold of this information sometimes.

She still sounds fantastic though and does the moving the car through the air bit very well.

Would like to know if she's bp though.

DJC

23,563 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Yes they do exist, more will soon exist with the owners being told of their exact provenance. Er, possibly not be TVR per se though!

You will not know if your engine is blueprinted unless you know who it was built by and confirmed by them. Then there is of course a pecking order of who built your engine, not all the engine boys were created equal of course!

nubbin

6,809 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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TVR Power blueprint the Speed Six - ask alt who has had it done, and is very happy with the result. Costs about £4000.

targarama

14,654 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Who cares? Two things are important:

- How long the engine lasts before major work
- How much torque/power it makes across the power band (i.e. not necessarily the absolute figures).

I read an advert recently for some sporty car or other saying how the engine was built by hand. So what? This probably introduces more possiblity of error than being built by robot IMO (assuming robot is programmed correctly and not assimilated by the Borg). Saying that, I'd rather my engine were built by an 'old timer' greasy expert kind of guy who knows what his doing than a YTS trainee who is too busy thinking about upping the power of his Corsa 1.2.

alt

1,879 posts

287 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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nubbin said:
TVR Power blueprint the Speed Six - ask alt who has had it done, and is very happy with the result. Costs about £4000.

Yep, had my 2002 3.6 Tamora blueprinted at TVR Power last December.
Problems were found during its 30,000 mile service so the blueprint/rebuild option was recommended.
It included many new parts including 4.0l cams so it's now a 4.0l Tamora.
On their dyno it recently made 312bhp at the rear wheels (approx. 375bhp at flywheel which is a very good reading.
Cheers... Andrew

nubbin

6,809 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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alt said:
Problems were found during its 30,000 mile service so the blueprint/rebuild option was recommended.


Andrew - what exactly were the problems they found? E-mail me if you prefer.

alt

1,879 posts

287 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Hi Nubbin, I knew the car wasn't running well as it was noisey and was prone to stalling when cold. It was diagnosed as being low on compression and only running on five cylinders. I'm not the most mechanically minded but can dig out the invoices if you want to know what parts were replaced?
Cheers... Andrew

woody-oTT

1,790 posts

232 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Mines in now getting Blueprinted, already a 4 ltr, but getting a FULL rebuild, also getting a Red Rose ported head

Leadfoot

1,905 posts

286 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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The sales invoice for my Tuscan ('02 S) has "Press engine" itemised on it, wonder what that might imply?

targarama

14,654 posts

288 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Leadfoot said:
The sales invoice for my Tuscan ('02 S) has "Press engine" itemised on it, wonder what that might imply?


It means they ran out of Speed Sixes and nipped next door to the chinese laundry and borrowed a clothes press. Have you noticed the engine emitting any white smoke? Does the car feel like its flattening bumps in the road?

trackcar

6,453 posts

231 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Leadfoot said:
The sales invoice for my Tuscan ('02 S) has "Press engine" itemised on it, wonder what that might imply?


I don't know .. it certainly wouldn't be an extra sepcial powerful engine designed to impress the media and con the buying public into believing the car was faster than the std production versions available to the man in the street .. 'cos that would be immoral and deceitful and something that (i'm sure) tvr would never get involved in.

nubbin

6,809 posts

283 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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trackcar said:
Leadfoot said:
The sales invoice for my Tuscan ('02 S) has "Press engine" itemised on it, wonder what that might imply?


I don't know .. it certainly wouldn't be an extra sepcial powerful engine designed to impress the media and con the buying public into believing the car was faster than the std production versions available to the man in the street .. 'cos that would be immoral and deceitful and something that (i'm sure) tvr would never get involved in.


Absolutely - just like the E-type that hit 150mph when first released - that was standard as well.

trackcar

6,453 posts

231 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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nubbin said:
trackcar said:
Leadfoot said:
The sales invoice for my Tuscan ('02 S) has "Press engine" itemised on it, wonder what that might imply?


I don't know .. it certainly wouldn't be an extra sepcial powerful engine designed to impress the media and con the buying public into believing the car was faster than the std production versions available to the man in the street .. 'cos that would be immoral and deceitful and something that (i'm sure) tvr would never get involved in.


Absolutely - just like the E-type that hit 150mph when first released - that was standard as well.



what you mean it happens all the time?

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

263 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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alt said:
nubbin said:
TVR Power blueprint the Speed Six - ask alt who has had it done, and is very happy with the result. Costs about £4000.

Yep, had my 2002 3.6 Tamora blueprinted at TVR Power last December.
Problems were found during its 30,000 mile service so the blueprint/rebuild option was recommended.
It included many new parts including 4.0l cams so it's now a 4.0l Tamora.
On their dyno it recently made 312bhp at the rear wheels (approx. 375bhp at flywheel which is a very good reading.
Cheers... Andrew


4.0 ltr would require new crank and new rods as a minimum, as the difference between the 3.6 and the 4.0 is the stroke of the engine, not the bore size. Unless you had the 4.0 crank, which is 1800 +vat and rods, then you simply have a 3.6 with higher lift cams!

Mr F

nubbin

6,809 posts

283 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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Oh, FFS he's had the operation, give him a break!

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

263 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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nubbin said:
Oh, FFS he's had the operation, give him a break!


Lets hope he was not charged for work not done the Nubbin, and less of the swearing please, it was not called for, I was simply stating facts

Thanks

Mr F

the pits

4,289 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th August 2006
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alt said:
nubbin said:
TVR Power blueprint the Speed Six - ask alt who has had it done, and is very happy with the result. Costs about £4000.

Yep, had my 2002 3.6 Tamora blueprinted at TVR Power last December.
Problems were found during its 30,000 mile service so the blueprint/rebuild option was recommended.
It included many new parts including 4.0l cams so it's now a 4.0l Tamora.
On their dyno it recently made 312bhp at the rear wheels (approx. 375bhp at flywheel which is a very good reading.
Cheers... Andrew




WOW! That must be Q-wick!

I totally approve of rebuilding to a higher spec, it doesn't cost that much more (ok it does) but it turns an unfortunate incident into a positive result. I did it on my Caterham when it's k-series let go. The car is massively improved and dramatically quicker with the new higher spec internals. If the engine hadn't blown up I'd never have done it.

yzf1070

814 posts

236 months

Monday 7th August 2006
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alt said:
nubbin said:
TVR Power blueprint the Speed Six - ask alt who has had it done, and is very happy with the result. Costs about £4000.

Yep, had my 2002 3.6 Tamora blueprinted at TVR Power last December.
Problems were found during its 30,000 mile service so the blueprint/rebuild option was recommended.
It included many new parts including 4.0l cams so it's now a 4.0l Tamora.
On their dyno it recently made 312bhp at the rear wheels (approx. 375bhp at flywheel which is a very good reading.
Cheers... Andrew


Do you know what exactly they did to the engine to make it blue print and what blue print engineering drawings/data were used in the process? Can you list the blue printing mods?