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bionicjim

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473 posts

145 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Hi all
Strange one this (well for every one else )
Does any one know who owns the IP
For the speed six as in the blue prints
I was told by joe blogs that he does
But after speaking to others I'm very doubt full
Any help if very wellcome

m4tti

5,464 posts

161 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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I know there's a certain engineering company who have an invoice from MCD for some drawings.

Does this constitute intellectual property I have no idea.

bionicjim

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473 posts

145 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Chers mate
That's probly the same company I have been talking to
How ever I have been told that they only have the prints
If they don't have the rights to the IP
Then they can not reproduce any thing of them ??????

Don1

16,047 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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The same company that attempted to take another company to court over copyright infringement, and failed miserably?

Yeah, not too sure how having a picture can mean you have IP rights - no matter what the picture is, and who you brought it off....

alex_gray255

6,316 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Is it the same bloke who holds rights to some of the Marcos engineering and design stuff? Runs a company locally to me...

If not, then guessing it would probably be Les (buying everything from NS)...

However, I'm only guessing.

m4tti

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Thursday 10th October 2013
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alex_gray255 said:
Is it the same bloke who holds rights to some of the Marcos engineering and design stuff? Runs a company locally to me...

If not, then guessing it would probably be Les (buying everything from NS)...

However, I'm only guessing.
Nope..

I beleive Jim is reffering to the Melling Consultancy design prints..

glow worm

6,110 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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IIRC when they appeared in SPRINT the owner was named .

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Not sure why people are being evasive here.

Dave Davis of RND owns the design rights/IP to the AJP6, as correctly stated above he bought them from Al Melling's consultancy company. He owns the electronic CAD drawings so they are classed as original, prints are irrelevant, I have some of the CAD drawings so could print them out but that wouldn't mean I owned the IP. I've seen a bill of sale.

The Speed 6 whilst not being exactly the same is a different design so I assume those rights are still held by TVR and I'd suggest creates a grey area, but no different from the situation when they were in production.

The court case 'failed' as the party being sued managed to bury the plaintiff in court procedures ensuring that the money ran out preventing the action to proceed further, the case wasn't lost.

The fact that the basis of the claim remains on a publicly accessible website suggests that the claim was valid in law as if it was untrue there would have been a court order to remove the claim and the details of the action. I'm sure many of us have seen the parts in question with the area containing the original manufacturers name ground out

Edited by V8 GRF on Thursday 10th October 15:51

m4tti

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161 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Unless you start manufacturing AJP6's what advantage do they provide one?

Don1

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214 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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So why does this affect one company, and not another? We all know companies who stock, maintain and sell the S6.... Or is this to do with this filed down area? (Honest question)

It does smack of a patent troll tactic. Oh, and are you sure that the case didn't reach court?

Edited by Don1 on Thursday 10th October 16:40

V8 GRF

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216 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Don1 said:
So why does this affect one company, and not another? We all know companies who stock, maintain and sell the S6.... Or is this to do with this filed down area? (Honest question)

It does smack of a patent troll tactic. Oh, and are you sure that the case didn't reach court?
Answering the previous question, the IP was bought with a view to producing the parts and indeed have been used for that purpose.

Nothing to do with patent trolling it was a case of one company acquiring a stock of physical parts manufactured by one company and then passing them off as their own by grinding the other companies name off.

It did get to court but as previously mentioned it was effectively brought to an end by using 'tactics' to prolong the case and so increase the plaintiff's costs.

Don1

16,047 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Interesting, thank you.

alex_gray255

6,316 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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http://www.rndengineering.co.uk/page_p8.htm

Have a scan of that. Might be relevant. Won't say anything about the content,
just might help clarify.

bionicjim

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473 posts

145 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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I bet this gets pulled as some one will be p----d

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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bionicjim said:
I bet this gets pulled as some one will be p----d
Nothing really for it to be pulled for.... facts is facts. smile

bionicjim

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473 posts

145 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Dave I agree
Facts is facts well in most cases

m4tti

5,464 posts

161 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Curiosly the accused are now probably the most innovative outfit in the speed six arena...

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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m4tti said:
Curiosly the accused are now probably the most innovative outfit in the speed six arena...
I don't think you'll find everyone agrees with that, eh Pascal? wink

Don1

16,047 posts

214 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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I think you'll be eating those words shortly, David.....

V8 GRF

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Friday 11th October 2013
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Don1 said:
I think you'll be eating those words shortly, David.....
That Pascal doesn't agree? Unlikely unless something has changed drastically in which case I'd be happy to be wrong. smile
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