Super Unleaded

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jayemm89

Original Poster:

4,123 posts

136 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Hi all,

I know this is a topic well treaded in the forum, but I was surprised to read recently that TVR recommend only 95 octane in the Tuscan, with 98 for race use.

Does the engine have the necessary bits in it to make use of higher octane stuff, or is there no benefit to it? I know the cerb red rose had a map for 98 but didn't know about the six.

apologies if this has been covered previously, my phone cant see the search feature on here!

james

blueg33

37,928 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Not sure where you read that.

To keep a TVR Power warranty alive they stipulate Super unleaded.

grumbledoak

31,756 posts

239 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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They were mapped for 95 from the factory as far as I know. My T350 didn't like starting warm on 98.

But, owners think they are 'treating' them, like Mobil 1 in the RV8...

QBee

21,329 posts

150 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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The labels stuck on an RV8 car say Super Unleaded and Mobil 1.

grumbledoak

31,756 posts

239 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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rofl No way was that old Buick engine designed with Mobil 1 in mind.

thatsprettyshady

3,056 posts

171 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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I stick super in my S6 as I believe it helps prevent knock? Or am I wrong?

ShiDevil

2,292 posts

180 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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V Power in mine, but then again it's been mapped for it by TVR Power smile 1 tank of fuel should last some of you a year, so not to worry :P

jayemm89

Original Poster:

4,123 posts

136 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Actually does not fuel start to go off after a while?

QBee

21,329 posts

150 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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jayemm89 said:
Actually does not fuel start to go off after a while?
Steve's comment comes from spending Monday at Cadwell Park, and the realisation he has V Power in his veins, not Dodo Juice.

jayemm89

Original Poster:

4,123 posts

136 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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I guess the key thing here is that if these engines don't have knock sensors in, then they'll be designed for one or the other.

ie. if Powers are doing their rebuilds with 98 in mind, then running it on 95 won't do it any favours, where other engines can compensate (even if they dont like it)

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

237 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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ShiDevil said:
V Power in mine, but then again it's been mapped for it by TVR Power smile 1 tank of fuel should last some of you a year, so not to worry :P
Quality reply PMSL!

Buzz

nawarne

3,096 posts

266 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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My Mk1 2004 car has a factory sticker by the filler cap stating
"95 Octane for road use, 98 Octane for track"...or words to that affect.

The 98 Ron requirement was, I believe, to address the detonation tendency on the Sp6 engines at high load/revs and temp.
Hence the Le Mans cars having extra injectors in the airbox...Jason has one of the LM airboxes fitted to his Tuscan race car.
Nick

QBee

21,329 posts

150 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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This sounds so like the RV8 engine.

My 4 litre was equally happy on either. I started on 98, but after a PH thread I tried 95, couldn't tell the difference, so only used 98 after that for track days.

My 5 litre I was told by the engine builder (Rob) "95 for road use, 98 for track".
So I started off on 95, then with a nearly empty tank and about to travel to a rolling road session, I stuck 98 in (actually Tescos 99). Change was immediate. Car ran far better, accelerated better, cruised more smoothly.

So for RV8s it seems to be a case of what suits your particular car.
Is similar true of the Speed 6?

jev

386 posts

266 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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I've always understood the factory spec to be set up for 95. However, I've found that it can knock a bit and so tend to put 98 in every third tank or so which seems to deal with these.

I have an unmodified Tamora 3.6.

Jev.

weeman6556

65 posts

153 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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In response to some questions above,

Super unleaded 98 octane does prevent knocking in the engine. I certainly found my Tuscan S doesnt like 95. So always run V power or BP ultimate. I certainly cant feel the difference but i can tell she is happier with it. But I recon every single car is different..... as we all know!

The other question about fuel going off, that is also true. however i beleive modern fuel is very unlikely to go off in the time frames were talking about. When the fuel goes off it turns "gummy" however with modern addatives Ive never seen it recently.

TOV!E

2,016 posts

240 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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BuzzBillsberry said:
Quality reply PMSL!

Buzz
The best quote in years, and in some cases very true

Tuscanuwe

323 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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My answer:
O.K., save some pennys and use 95 octane and spend some thousands
for a rebuilt.
Everybody can do what he want!


no further comments from my side!----------------

Uwe