Result of Re-Map + Extras
Discussion
Went down a slightly different route than some with my Tuscan, i.e no major engine parts replaced, to ovecome the problem of lean running top end as picked up on two independant RR sessions.
Having spoken to Jason at Str8six last year the 'long' term plan was to change the injectors for 'Green Tops', then map to match. I also wanted to have a de-cat and fit an ACT performance Airbox, so the new map would need to take these into account, but the main aim was to have it running right.
The work was completed this week, and to say I'm impressed with the result is an understatement, big thank you to Jason and his team at Str8six and Dom and his team at TVR Power, I never expected the figures below;
Note these are at the wheels,
I know it's not in the same ball park as a 4.3/4.5 or the FFF, but I'm pleased anyway
Cheers
Andy 'P'
Having spoken to Jason at Str8six last year the 'long' term plan was to change the injectors for 'Green Tops', then map to match. I also wanted to have a de-cat and fit an ACT performance Airbox, so the new map would need to take these into account, but the main aim was to have it running right.
The work was completed this week, and to say I'm impressed with the result is an understatement, big thank you to Jason and his team at Str8six and Dom and his team at TVR Power, I never expected the figures below;
Note these are at the wheels,
I know it's not in the same ball park as a 4.3/4.5 or the FFF, but I'm pleased anyway
Cheers
Andy 'P'
Looks good, A good way to approach it I'd say. Unless the engine needs rebuilt I can't see a point in the great expense for the gains, 356 at the wheels must be around the 390 mark at the flywheel.
Were the Sagaris fitted with the same injectors that are related to the leaning out problem?
Graham
Were the Sagaris fitted with the same injectors that are related to the leaning out problem?
Graham
Hollowpockets said:
Looks good, A good way to approach it I'd say. Unless the engine needs rebuilt I can't see a point in the great expense for the gains, 356 at the wheels must be around the 390 mark at the flywheel.
Were the Sagaris fitted with the same injectors that are related to the leaning out problem?
Graham
The Sagaris and Tuscan S are the same engine, so would think TVR used the same injectors. Can't tell you what the fly figure is. At SRR when all this kicked off I got a wheel figure of 293.2HP and 353.1HP at the fly, but how that was derived I have no idea Were the Sagaris fitted with the same injectors that are related to the leaning out problem?
Graham
Andy Pandie said:
Hollowpockets said:
Looks good, A good way to approach it I'd say. Unless the engine needs rebuilt I can't see a point in the great expense for the gains, 356 at the wheels must be around the 390 mark at the flywheel.
Were the Sagaris fitted with the same injectors that are related to the leaning out problem?
Graham
The Sagaris and Tuscan S are the same engine, so would think TVR used the same injectors. Can't tell you what the fly figure is. At SRR when all this kicked off I got a wheel figure of 293.2HP and 353.1HP at the fly, but how that was derived I have no idea Were the Sagaris fitted with the same injectors that are related to the leaning out problem?
Graham
Great result Andy Do you still have the original RR printouts from before the work?
I'm considering a bespoke map once my engine's run in and not sure whether to go for one of the newer syvecs/mbe units or just a remap using the current mbe.
Have you noticed an improvement in throttle response/driveability etc?
Do you still have the original RR printouts from before the work?I'm considering a bespoke map once my engine's run in and not sure whether to go for one of the newer syvecs/mbe units or just a remap using the current mbe.
Have you noticed an improvement in throttle response/driveability etc?
Hi Dave,
Yes still have the original RR printouts, I'm sad and keep stuff like that, on both readouts there is a noticeable dip in the fuelling part way through the curve, and then it drops off towards the top end. Not got an electronic copy to hand so can't post it at the moment.
The throttle response is instant and pulls strongly right through the rev range, gave me that tremble hand buzz
A bespoke map was the only option open to me, no off the shelf available, but was the long term plan anyway, a generic chip is a great starting point but in my opinion these are hand built engines and therefore have slightly different characteristics. For me she is a totally different beast, I'm looking for excuses to go out in the evenings, well worth the £650 and a tank of V-power.
Yes still have the original RR printouts, I'm sad and keep stuff like that, on both readouts there is a noticeable dip in the fuelling part way through the curve, and then it drops off towards the top end. Not got an electronic copy to hand so can't post it at the moment.
The throttle response is instant and pulls strongly right through the rev range, gave me that tremble hand buzz
A bespoke map was the only option open to me, no off the shelf available, but was the long term plan anyway, a generic chip is a great starting point but in my opinion these are hand built engines and therefore have slightly different characteristics. For me she is a totally different beast, I'm looking for excuses to go out in the evenings, well worth the £650 and a tank of V-power.Andy Pandie said:
Hi Dave,
Yes still have the original RR printouts, I'm sad and keep stuff like that, on both readouts there is a noticeable dip in the fuelling part way through the curve, and then it drops off towards the top end. Not got an electronic copy to hand so can't post it at the moment.
The throttle response is instant and pulls strongly right through the rev range, gave me that tremble hand buzz A bespoke map was the only option open to me, no off the shelf available, but was the long term plan anyway, a generic chip is a great starting point but in my opinion these are hand built engines and therefore have slightly different characteristics. For me she is a totally different beast, I'm looking for excuses to go out in the evenings, well worth the £650 and a tank of V-power.
Looks like a great result Andy, how much were the injectors if you dont mind me asking? The ACT box is £1k isnt it? So im guessing around £2k for this improvement? Yes still have the original RR printouts, I'm sad and keep stuff like that, on both readouts there is a noticeable dip in the fuelling part way through the curve, and then it drops off towards the top end. Not got an electronic copy to hand so can't post it at the moment.
The throttle response is instant and pulls strongly right through the rev range, gave me that tremble hand buzz
A bespoke map was the only option open to me, no off the shelf available, but was the long term plan anyway, a generic chip is a great starting point but in my opinion these are hand built engines and therefore have slightly different characteristics. For me she is a totally different beast, I'm looking for excuses to go out in the evenings, well worth the £650 and a tank of V-power.I think Clive F has done similar with the exception of the higher lift RND cams - and got to the 400bhp mark which is also a fab result...looking forward to when Joolz releases that upgrade as a kit....
Graaf said:
inspired by you I went to the dyno station last Saturday and they recorded 385bhp and 420nm torque..you can imagine I was happily suprised ! Now I am even more keen to find the previous owner :-)
Great figures Robertjp said:
Looks like a great result Andy, how much were the injectors if you dont mind me asking? The ACT box is £1k isnt it? So im guessing around £2k for this improvement?
I think Clive F has done similar with the exception of the higher lift RND cams - and got to the 400bhp mark which is also a fab result...looking forward to when Joolz releases that upgrade as a kit....
Rob,I think Clive F has done similar with the exception of the higher lift RND cams - and got to the 400bhp mark which is also a fab result...looking forward to when Joolz releases that upgrade as a kit....
Basic total = £2,260 including V.A.T
ACT Performance Air Box - £1,050
Green Top Injectors - £430
Re-Map - £780
Bear in mind I also had Str8six fit the Air Box, supply/fit DeCats, and got them to transport the car to and from Coventry for the re-map, so my total was just shy of the £3k mark, still think it was money well spent
Laser Sag said:
George
I wonder if you are thinking in lb/foot when Graff is quoting nm, 420 nm would be around 310 lb/ft
Exactly Laser ! So very close the the claimed factory figures and much morethen I expected, still have to install the sportcats and wondering about the airfilter options, geuss that 400bhp will come in sight :-)I wonder if you are thinking in lb/foot when Graff is quoting nm, 420 nm would be around 310 lb/ft
Edited by Graaf on Friday 17th August 11:02
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