2003 engine - had TVR sorted them by then?
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Hi
Ive been researching here about the issues that came with the first iterations of the speed 6 engine, and how later ones were sorted. I am thinking of getting a 2003 engine and wondered if this would have been sorted out? Was there a year when everything came good, or is there a way to tell? I've done some searches and Google, but haven't been bale to find the answer.
TIA
Rich
Ive been researching here about the issues that came with the first iterations of the speed 6 engine, and how later ones were sorted. I am thinking of getting a 2003 engine and wondered if this would have been sorted out? Was there a year when everything came good, or is there a way to tell? I've done some searches and Google, but haven't been bale to find the answer.
TIA
Rich
SkyUK said:
Hi
Ive been researching here about the issues that came with the first iterations of the speed 6 engine, and how later ones were sorted. I am thinking of getting a 2003 engine and wondered if this would have been sorted out? Was there a year when everything came good, or is there a way to tell? I've done some searches and Google, but haven't been bale to find the answer.
TIA
Rich
I take it you don't have a TVR? I wouldn't worry about it, by now they have all been sorted either through rebuilds or the factory recalled many under warranty. The later ones also had better components, so I would say 2004 onwards, even more likely to be fine Just buy a well serviced looked after car and do the same Ive been researching here about the issues that came with the first iterations of the speed 6 engine, and how later ones were sorted. I am thinking of getting a 2003 engine and wondered if this would have been sorted out? Was there a year when everything came good, or is there a way to tell? I've done some searches and Google, but haven't been bale to find the answer.
TIA
Rich
The later engines are supposed to be better but plenty have had rebuilds. When I bought I was looking at a 2000 car and a 2003 car, the 2000 had a rebuild by TVR Power with a 5 year guarantee, the 2003 car was described as rebuilt, but in reality only had a couple of finger followers and a cam shaft replaced, the guy that did the work (very reputable) said it would be bound to fail again, but he was only allowed to do the parts he did as it was paid for by a warranty company.
ShiDevil said:
I take it you don't have a TVR? I wouldn't worry about it, by now they have all been sorted either through rebuilds or the factory recalled many under warranty. The later ones also had better components, so I would say 2004 onwards, even more likely to be fine Just buy a well serviced looked after car and do the same
Jesus what utter utter bsI take it you haven't being here too long?
ShiDevil said:
I take it you don't have a TVR? I wouldn't worry about it, by now they have all been sorted either through rebuilds or the factory recalled many under warranty. The later ones also had better components, so I would say 2004 onwards, even more likely to be fine Just buy a well serviced looked after car and do the same
Oh and before you start a rant There's a heap of cars out there which have had another rebuild or a problem and its gone back to the
Gods of TVR and they still go tits. :
Funny aint it not but those that have the problem are
Thanks for the advice. I don't have a TVR, but I'm about 99% mind made up on buying this http://beta.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/.... It kinda looks utterly insane, just what I want! 2003 engine, not rebuilt; so I'll follow up with a visit to TVRPower/Str8Six and talk to them. Cheers
SkyUK said:
Thanks for the advice. I don't have a TVR, but I'm about 99% mind made up on buying this http://beta.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/.... It kinda looks utterly insane, just what I want! 2003 engine, not rebuilt; so I'll follow up with a visit to TVRPower/Str8Six and talk to them. Cheers
TVR Power will give a warranty if they look at it and think its ok. You will have to pay for it of course.That car will be scary! and noisy, the speed6 is not the worlds quietest engine
3 Variables basically in the mix.
1) Component quality
2) Build quality
3) Treated with care
All 3 are variable, TVR paid bills on a who shouted loudest basis so component supplier quality varied all the time regardless of year. Number 3 is hard to judge unless you find a one owner car.
So basically you can find rock solid 2000 build cars still going on the original engine and rebuilt 2004's after 10000 miles.
Basically look what Power do with a rebuild - its still the same head, block, pistons, crank, conrods etc. Nothing big gets changed, but they use much better quality components and build to much better tolerances. So thats 1 & 2 problems taken care of.
1) Component quality
2) Build quality
3) Treated with care
All 3 are variable, TVR paid bills on a who shouted loudest basis so component supplier quality varied all the time regardless of year. Number 3 is hard to judge unless you find a one owner car.
So basically you can find rock solid 2000 build cars still going on the original engine and rebuilt 2004's after 10000 miles.
Basically look what Power do with a rebuild - its still the same head, block, pistons, crank, conrods etc. Nothing big gets changed, but they use much better quality components and build to much better tolerances. So thats 1 & 2 problems taken care of.
PuffsBack said:
3 Variables basically in the mix.
1) Component quality
2) Build quality
3) Treated with care
All 3 are variable, TVR paid bills on a who shouted loudest basis so component supplier quality varied all the time regardless of year. Number 3 is hard to judge unless you find a one owner car.
So basically you can find rock solid 2000 build cars still going on the original engine and rebuilt 2004's after 10000 miles.
Basically look what Power do with a rebuild - its still the same head, block, pistons, crank, conrods etc. Nothing big gets changed, but they use much better quality components and build to much better tolerances. So thats 1 & 2 problems taken care of.
One owner after a rebuild by TVR Power sorts point 3 1) Component quality
2) Build quality
3) Treated with care
All 3 are variable, TVR paid bills on a who shouted loudest basis so component supplier quality varied all the time regardless of year. Number 3 is hard to judge unless you find a one owner car.
So basically you can find rock solid 2000 build cars still going on the original engine and rebuilt 2004's after 10000 miles.
Basically look what Power do with a rebuild - its still the same head, block, pistons, crank, conrods etc. Nothing big gets changed, but they use much better quality components and build to much better tolerances. So thats 1 & 2 problems taken care of.
blueg33 said:
TVR Power will give a warranty if they look at it and think its ok. You will have to pay for it of course.
That car will be scary! and noisy, the speed6 is not the worlds quietest engine
Thanks. I didn't know 1That car will be scary! and noisy, the speed6 is not the worlds quietest engine
Shopping list
1. Scary... tick
2. Noisy... tick
3. Doesnt accelerate (thats so 2000), just teleports from corner to corner... tick
I'm already dribbling and I haven't even seen it
billynomates said:
Jesus what utter utter bs
I take it you haven't being here too long?
Hi. I'm trying to be positive mate, that's all. Yes there are issues for some people, but not all, in the main, well serviced cars or later models are a lot better. The negatives tend to be the main focus on forums. It drives people to worry too much or create an artificially negative view. No i haven't had mine for long, since February, although driven 2,000 miles since then and it hasn't skipped a beat. I am intending to use mine, which I think is half the problem, there seem to be a lot that don't, so they sit there. I'm a firm believer that if the car is being used, rather than sitting there, it is all the better for it. So a few extra miles on a str8six isn't a bad thing.I take it you haven't being here too long?
Edited by ShiDevil on Tuesday 22 May 06:44
Even Sagaris and Tuscan2 owners lose a little sleep worrying about whether their 2005/2006 engine will let go with the old chocolate finger follower problem, or some other component failure, as with TVRs, there seems to be no hard and fast rule.
If the car comes with a full 12 month warranty, or even better, remains of a 3-year or 5-year Engine rebuild warranty from TVR Power, STR8Six, Racing Green etc. then that would be the best position to be in probably.
A standard engine rebuild will set you back £5k allin, and upgraded rebuild more like £8k or £10k, and they seem to be good for in excess of 100,000 miles !!!
Price that into your calculations, assess wether the owner exhibits mechanical sympathy, and have a look at several before making your decision, and see if any PH'er knows about tha cars history.
Good Luck - you'll be glad you chose a TVR when you find one - they're mental.
If the car comes with a full 12 month warranty, or even better, remains of a 3-year or 5-year Engine rebuild warranty from TVR Power, STR8Six, Racing Green etc. then that would be the best position to be in probably.
A standard engine rebuild will set you back £5k allin, and upgraded rebuild more like £8k or £10k, and they seem to be good for in excess of 100,000 miles !!!
Price that into your calculations, assess wether the owner exhibits mechanical sympathy, and have a look at several before making your decision, and see if any PH'er knows about tha cars history.
Good Luck - you'll be glad you chose a TVR when you find one - they're mental.
they do have other niggles that try your patience too, but they're worth it !!
RedSpike66 said:
Even Sagaris and Tuscan2 owners lose a little sleep worrying about whether their 2005/2006 engine will let go with the old chocolate finger follower problem, or some other component failure, as with TVRs, there seems to be no hard and fast rule.
If the car comes with a full 12 month warranty, or even better, remains of a 3-year or 5-year Engine rebuild warranty from TVR Power, STR8Six, Racing Green etc. then that would be the best position to be in probably.
A standard engine rebuild will set you back £5k allin, and upgraded rebuild more like £8k or £10k, and they seem to be good for in excess of 100,000 miles !!!
Price that into your calculations, assess wether the owner exhibits mechanical sympathy, and have a look at several before making your decision, and see if any PH'er knows about tha cars history.
Good Luck - you'll be glad you chose a TVR when you find one - they're mental.
He isn't looking at a TVR!If the car comes with a full 12 month warranty, or even better, remains of a 3-year or 5-year Engine rebuild warranty from TVR Power, STR8Six, Racing Green etc. then that would be the best position to be in probably.
A standard engine rebuild will set you back £5k allin, and upgraded rebuild more like £8k or £10k, and they seem to be good for in excess of 100,000 miles !!!
Price that into your calculations, assess wether the owner exhibits mechanical sympathy, and have a look at several before making your decision, and see if any PH'er knows about tha cars history.
Good Luck - you'll be glad you chose a TVR when you find one - they're mental.
they do have other niggles that try your patience too, but they're worth it !!
TBH if you want reliability then buying any TVR that has been rebuilt AWAY from the factory at places live TVR Power, Racing Green,str8six would be the best bet.Unless you have the money for a rebuild on top of the purchase price. having a car that has been rebuilt removes the uncertanty and adds to the enjoyment of ownership. But you will pay more for a rebuilt car but worth it in my opinion.
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