Speed 6 'S' - in a Cerb?
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Wonder if anyone can shed any light on this? I've recently acquired a Cerb Speed 6. In the logbook the car is described as a Speed 6 S, and there is a rather naff S sticker below the badge at the back, which on closer inspection appears to be under the paint line, suggesting it was done by the factory. The car was registered in Jan 2003.
Does anybody know of such a designation for a Cerb S6 and what it indicates - I can't find any info on it at all?
Does anybody know of such a designation for a Cerb S6 and what it indicates - I can't find any info on it at all?
Hi Andy, I also have a 2003 speed six cerbera, I don not think the Cerb was available with an "S" engine to my knowlage. At a recent Rolling Road day a Tuscan S, and a Sagaris made about 25hp more than my speed six(335-360bhp) which is about right for a "s" over a speed six.I think the torque was about the same coming out around abot 300-305. This would suggest that my Cerb is a non "S" but I don not think there was that much difference in the engine just a different Map and a different exhaust.It would be good If someone could confirm for sure though.
natben said:
Hi Andy, I also have a 2003 speed six cerbera, I don not think the Cerb was available with an "S" engine to my knowlage. At a recent Rolling Road day a Tuscan S, and a Sagaris made about 25hp more than my speed six(335-360bhp) which is about right for a "s" over a speed six.I think the torque was about the same coming out around abot 300-305. This would suggest that my Cerb is a non "S" but I don not think there was that much difference in the engine just a different Map and a different exhaust.It would be good If someone could confirm for sure though.
I believe the 's' version gets high compression pistons and larger injectors (and possibly a different cam profile and engine mapping)
Thanks for the replies. Given that the engine had a rebuild by Austec I guess the original spec (if it was different to standard) is irrelevant now anyway.
It's an odd one as no-one I have come across has heard of such a model, but the S sticker would appear to be original. I'll have to have a poke around the engine for the felt pen S!
It's an odd one as no-one I have come across has heard of such a model, but the S sticker would appear to be original. I'll have to have a poke around the engine for the felt pen S!
Gazzab said:
S spec Cerbs were never officially offered afaik.
But if a customer asked then I am sure they would have made one.
It surely might have had it done later?
I havent heard of TVR adding stickers and spraying laquer over them...
I'd imagine it was done at the rebuild were it not for the logbook, although I guess that could have been altered too, to reflect the Austec engine. The S sticker is truly sBut if a customer asked then I am sure they would have made one.
It surely might have had it done later?
I havent heard of TVR adding stickers and spraying laquer over them...
te though, can't imagine anyone voluntarily putting that on in the belief that it enhanced the car....The docs aren't totally complete but there is a reference to a non-standard exhaust on a service document (with no evidence that one was retro-fitted, and the dampers are adjustable which I'm not sure is standard either, perhaps someone can put me right there.
I do love the fact that TVRs can be so unique, it would be nice to know mine was especially so! I should have the car this weekend so I'll post some pics up (currently with Central being polished by virgins).
andydw said:
Does anybody know of such a designation for a Cerb S6 and what it indicates - I can't find any info on it at all?
Is your car in Rosso Red? There definitely was a customer car in that colour, a special order Cerb with the equivalent of a Tuscan S engine in it. I met Samuelson at Knockhill when I had an early Tuscan and the wife was pregnant. I asked him if he TVR would build a Speed 6 Cerbera with the 'S' engine and 4.5 running gear and brakes as a lightweight and he said no problem. Basically they would do whatever you asked within certain limits, but they would charge accordingly but then you could never quite be sure if all the special bits advertised were actually in the engine and drive train you had agreed to pay for...Hope yours is running OK - have you had it on a dyno?
CiderwithCerbie said:
Is your car in Rosso Red? There definitely was a customer car in that colour, a special order Cerb with the equivalent of a Tuscan S engine in it. I met Samuelson at Knockhill when I had an early Tuscan and the wife was pregnant. I asked him if he TVR would build a Speed 6 Cerbera with the 'S' engine and 4.5 running gear and brakes as a lightweight and he said no problem. Basically they would do whatever you asked within certain limits, but they would charge accordingly but then you could never quite be sure if all the special bits advertised were actually in the engine and drive train you had agreed to pay for...
Hope yours is running OK - have you had it on a dyno?
Interesting. The car is actually arena red, which is quite a dark metallic red. I think rosso is a brighter colour? I guess if they were prepared to build one-off specs then there's no reason this one couldn't have been different to standard. The original receipt of sale etc I don't have. Hope yours is running OK - have you had it on a dyno?
Certainly goes like stink but then they all do and I've not driven another speed six cerb to compare it to. Not dyno'd it but that will come when I get round to having Syvecs fitted - might be a while mind.
andydw said:
CiderwithCerbie said:
Is your car in Rosso Red? There definitely was a customer car in that colour, a special order Cerb with the equivalent of a Tuscan S engine in it. I met Samuelson at Knockhill when I had an early Tuscan and the wife was pregnant. I asked him if he TVR would build a Speed 6 Cerbera with the 'S' engine and 4.5 running gear and brakes as a lightweight and he said no problem. Basically they would do whatever you asked within certain limits, but they would charge accordingly but then you could never quite be sure if all the special bits advertised were actually in the engine and drive train you had agreed to pay for...
Hope yours is running OK - have you had it on a dyno?
Interesting. The car is actually arena red, which is quite a dark metallic red. I think rosso is a brighter colour? I guess if they were prepared to build one-off specs then there's no reason this one couldn't have been different to standard. The original receipt of sale etc I don't have. Hope yours is running OK - have you had it on a dyno?
Certainly goes like stink but then they all do and I've not driven another speed six cerb to compare it to. Not dyno'd it but that will come when I get round to having Syvecs fitted - might be a while mind.
There might be some info on the Cerbera Register web-site?
Look forward to seeing the figures if and when you get them.
CiderwithCerbie said:
That's probably the one - I am mildly red-green colour blind!
There might be some info on the Cerbera Register web-site?
Look forward to seeing the figures if and when you get them.
Well now, that's interesting. Everybody who has driven it (eg the dealer Tony Gilbert, Adrian at Central and I think Dom at Power)have all commented on how nicely it drives and of course they have plenty to compare it to. Having said that, the car had an Austec rebuild at about 34k miles, so not sure how much of the original spec is left. Can you point me to the register website you mentioned, Google just points me to the register on here? There might be some info on the Cerbera Register web-site?
Look forward to seeing the figures if and when you get them.
Cheers for the info!
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