Al Melling's original AJP-6 Engine !!!!

[Getsis]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MCD-AJP-6-Engine-/330602...

I'm guessing it won't run. Anyone know what CC this is?
looks like he's selling a lot of old stock stuff too.

[JR]

3.0 or 3.6.

[dvs_dave]

Dom has got to buy this and put it on display in his office!

[itiejim]

Getsis said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MCD-AJP-6-Engine-/330602...

I'm guessing it won't run. Anyone know what CC this is?
looks like he's selling a lot of old stock stuff too.

Why shouldn't it run?

As a one off, I'd have thought there was half a chance that the components are made properly as well, rather than some of the junk that went into the production versions.

[Getsis]

itiejim said:

Why shouldn't it run?

It won't have run for over 11 years if it's one of the originals. So will need a strip down to ensure all is as it should, along with replacing all seals at least. If it does run you would have to be a brave man to put it into a car. I think this is best to stay as a display piece.

Edited by Getsis on Thursday 18th August 09:19

[plasticman]

Why shouldn`t it run ? Looks like it is lacking a few components . I mean internally not just the obvious .

Edited by plasticman on Thursday 18th August 09:08

[Tuscanuwe]

can be used only for show and shine
I think!

Uwe

[Full Throttle]

I'm sure it would run when complete, if no oil or water has been in it. All seals could do with replacing but there all loctite 598! Plus the head gasket. More interesting point i've never seen a Speed 6 without the harmonic damper!??

[V8 GRF]

Full Throttle said:

More interesting point i've never seen a Speed 6 without the harmonic damper!??

It's not a Speed 6 it's an AJP6, which, according to Al for various reason, was better balanced and as a result did not need a damper.

I'd be surprised if it's complete to be honest.

[Night Rider]

itiejim said:

Why shouldn't it run?

I suppose the lack of a hole for the crank & no platform for the oil filter to seal against....no, it’ll be fine

Great coffee table.

[brogenville]

Night Rider said:

I suppose the lack of a hole for the crank & no platform for the oil filter to seal against....no, it’ll be fine

Great coffee table.

Eh? The "hole for the crank" is at the back where we cant see... I'm pretty sure there is a hole there! Whether or not there's a crank I have no idea. Also, the AJP-6 has the oil filter on the opposite side to the Speed 6- it will be there, we just cant see it in the photos.

[duff-man]

Also looks like its got a sump on the bottom of it so good luck getting it in any SP6 car

[Getsis]

Where will the starter motor bolt to?

[brogenville]

Getsis said:

Where will the starter motor bolt to?

Presumably on the side of the engine that we can't see in the photos. I doubt Al would have forgotten to add on a starter!

[Full Throttle]

V8 GRF said:

It's not a Speed 6 it's an AJP6, which, according to Al for various reason, was better balanced and as a result did not need a damper.

I'd be surprised if it's complete to be honest.

Sorry I'll try getting the engine's name correct next time. I thought dampers were fitted to engines to help balance and alter the crankshafts natural frequency to separate it from the resonance of the firing order. Which long crankshafts like a straight 6 are very susceptible to, acting like a torsional spring?

Edited by Full Throttle on Friday 19th August 16:10

[V8 GRF]

Full Throttle said:

Sorry I'll try getting the engine's name correct next time. I thought dampers were fitted to engines to help balance and alter the crankshafts natural frequency to separate it from the resonance of the firing order. Which long crankshafts like a straight 6 are very susceptible to, acting like a torsional spring?

I'm not being a pedant on the name, there are differences with a longer crank on the Speed6 varesion being one of them.

[Getsis]

brogenville said:

Getsis said:

Where will the starter motor bolt to?

Presumably on the side of the engine that we can't see in the photos. I doubt Al would have forgotten to add on a starter!

If the starter motor and oil filter are on the opposite side what a nightmare the arrangement of the headers will be and the heat soak into the starter motor will be frightening. Don't think this engine will fit in a 'T' car !!

[johnbear]

I heard the other original engines ran for 15 minutes on tick over before seizing on the TVR factory Dymo. That's when the problems started. The matter I heard ended in court and apparently Al Melling couldn't explain how the oil pump worked to the court. I heard this from one of today's most respected guys who worked in engine development at the factory.

[dpd3047]

Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.!!

Edited by dpd3047 on Sunday 18th September 20:10