Trackday - Brands - Sat 18th
Discussion
Anyone else here going? Sounds a bit of an insane time of the year for taking Lotuses on track, and I'm expecting most of the participants to be in Scoobies and Evos but it'll be interesting to see whether I can keep up with them. If they're the usual 400 bhp tuned jobs then my expectation is 'no chance matey' but if it's chucking with rain like last time (and I was on A048s last time!) then I might be able to keep up, no?
It's an MSV organised event, BTW - I've always found them professionally run so should be OK even if the conditions result in a few people overstepping their skill levels…
It's an MSV organised event, BTW - I've always found them professionally run so should be OK even if the conditions result in a few people overstepping their skill levels…
cyberface said:
Anyone else here going? Sounds a bit of an insane time of the year for taking Lotuses on track, and I'm expecting most of the participants to be in Scoobies and Evos but it'll be interesting to see whether I can keep up with them. If they're the usual 400 bhp tuned jobs then my expectation is 'no chance matey' but if it's chucking with rain like last time (and I was on A048s last time!) then I might be able to keep up, no?
It's an MSV organised event, BTW - I've always found them professionally run so should be OK even if the conditions result in a few people overstepping their skill levels…
I'll pop by and say hello but not going on track in this weather you must be madIt's an MSV organised event, BTW - I've always found them professionally run so should be OK even if the conditions result in a few people overstepping their skill levels…
Boggy
I dunno Stu - last time I was there, it was towards the end of August, a few days before my South of France / D1212 / N85 road trip (tempting fate…) and I was on a brand new, fresh set of A048s. Due to working till 4 am I didn't arrive until lunchtime (would have been idiotic to drive when knackered, and no fun either - the whole point is fun, after all…) and by then the weather had turned to poo - drizzle at lunch had all the nice cars I wanted to drive with (GT3RS, Caterham CSR260, all sorts of nice machinery!) disappearing off home. The afternoon sessions ended up with only 4 of us! I was pushing it but A048s when the rain is starting to puddle… asking for trouble.
I reckon the car will be better suited to the conditions on Saturday unless there's snow or ice. Snow would be fun - at very low speeds - if there was ice we probably wouldn't be let out onto the track. At least the cold and any rain will be easily dealt with by the tyres - they're the right tools for the job.
Don't expect to be setting any personal best laps but as a result it should be safer really - not only do the winter tyres break away more progressively anyway (making on-limit driving safer), everything will be happening at a slower pace. It'll still be fun, it'll give me opportunity to try different lines
More importantly - my birthday present back in October from Miss Cyberface was a Drift Technologies video camera (as recommended here…) and I've got all the necessary bracketry to secure the camera to the harness bar. This is very unobtrusive i.e. the chaps who check your wristbands as you go out will have trouble spotting it in the Exige, let alone the marshals - anyone know what MSV's policy is *in practice* regarding filming your driving on track days? I personally really want to start filming my laps so I can compare to the fast guys and see where I'm taking different lines etc. I'm not fast enough to want to show off and post on YouTube etc. or messing around
- it's purely so I can learn to go faster. However the MSV policy of 'no cameras' - if you go by the letter of the law - bans you from taking a snap of your mate standing next to your car in the pits. I've always taken a camera to trackdays and snapped away at other cars there - never had anyone tell me to destroy an expensive DSLR or eat the SD card So is it the same w.r.t. video cameras in cars - as in a policy dictated by image rights (i.e. they'd get shirty if I sold my footage to some TV station) and for obvious personal use, they ignore them?
Anyone got direct experience?
I reckon the car will be better suited to the conditions on Saturday unless there's snow or ice. Snow would be fun - at very low speeds - if there was ice we probably wouldn't be let out onto the track. At least the cold and any rain will be easily dealt with by the tyres - they're the right tools for the job.
Don't expect to be setting any personal best laps but as a result it should be safer really - not only do the winter tyres break away more progressively anyway (making on-limit driving safer), everything will be happening at a slower pace. It'll still be fun, it'll give me opportunity to try different lines
More importantly - my birthday present back in October from Miss Cyberface was a Drift Technologies video camera (as recommended here…) and I've got all the necessary bracketry to secure the camera to the harness bar. This is very unobtrusive i.e. the chaps who check your wristbands as you go out will have trouble spotting it in the Exige, let alone the marshals - anyone know what MSV's policy is *in practice* regarding filming your driving on track days? I personally really want to start filming my laps so I can compare to the fast guys and see where I'm taking different lines etc. I'm not fast enough to want to show off and post on YouTube etc. or messing around
- it's purely so I can learn to go faster. However the MSV policy of 'no cameras' - if you go by the letter of the law - bans you from taking a snap of your mate standing next to your car in the pits. I've always taken a camera to trackdays and snapped away at other cars there - never had anyone tell me to destroy an expensive DSLR or eat the SD card So is it the same w.r.t. video cameras in cars - as in a policy dictated by image rights (i.e. they'd get shirty if I sold my footage to some TV station) and for obvious personal use, they ignore them?Anyone got direct experience?
The only MSV track I've driven in recent years is Oulton Park, where I had to sign a form before I was allowed to film in-car. Basically it said something along the lines that the copyright of any film footage was owned by MSV and that it was only for my own personal use and I wasn't allowed to publish it anywhere without their express permission etc. The marshals also checked the camera mount before I was allowed on track.
I've never had to sign anything or had anyone check the camera mount at any other circuit. Most circuits just tell you not to use hand-held or suction-mounted cameras on track and that is as far as they care.
I've never had to sign anything or had anyone check the camera mount at any other circuit. Most circuits just tell you not to use hand-held or suction-mounted cameras on track and that is as far as they care.
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