anyone gone from TVR to elise?

anyone gone from TVR to elise?

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shnozz

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28,008 posts

278 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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thinking of swapping the Chimaera for an Elise. Anyone done a similar move? thoughts?

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Lots of people have Judging by their comments you'll probably miss the power & practicality* but enjoy the handling/agility.

Definitely go for a test drive though. Its the other side of the British sports car coin (i.e. more handling than power vs more power than handling!). I think its a shame people can get so blinkered into brand loyalty that they don't own both in their lifetimes!

In fact if you can afford a new 111R/S2 Exige even the power is ok if a little frantic.


* depending on your Tiv's reliability record, as whilst a big boot is practical its not much use on the hard shoulder

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Have you driven one Phil?

I tried a normal S2 and it left me feeling a little cold I have to say. Completely gutless after the Tiv, sublime handling but to get any sort of TVR like enjoyment you have to be 9/10ths or above at all times.

AllTorque

2,646 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Sure you could squeeze in Phil?

shnozz

Original Poster:

28,008 posts

278 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Plotloss said:
Have you driven one Phil?

I tried a normal S2 and it left me feeling a little cold I have to say. Completely gutless after the Tiv, sublime handling but to get any sort of TVR like enjoyment you have to be 9/10ths or above at all times.


I have driven one but it was pre-TVR days and I remember being stunned by the handling and the performance seemed extremely quick. But that was when I owned an MGF

just cant think of many options if I were to replace the TVR. Unlike the thought of a cerb, the elise would cost me peanuts to run

shnozz

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28,008 posts

278 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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AllTorque said:
Sure you could squeeze in Phil?


seemed to be ok when I had a drive before. The Elan was the biggest joke. No way in the earth i could drive one of them - knees around ears. anyone over 5' need not apply

Bonce

4,339 posts

286 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Don't bother with a 118bhp version if you're coming from a Tiv, you'd never be able to get over the difference. A 111S or sport 160 would be much more enjoyable for you. Take a test drive and let us know how you get on!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Dont bet on it, C service can get costly. A mate of Bobski's C service was Cerb money...

Porsche?

Its not that much of a dark side...

shnozz

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28,008 posts

278 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Plotloss said:
Dont bet on it, C service can get costly. A mate of Bobski's C service was Cerb money...

Porsche?

Its not that much of a dark side...


but Porsche what? I dont really want to add finance on top of the cost of the chimaera. So its 968 money. And then its a hardtop which I am not sure I want, coupled with the fact the 968 is a bit too much of a mix of 944/928 to look that modern IMHO. Fantastic car, and I respect them hugely after being passenger in one on the A32, but not sure I think of them as special.

craigw

12,248 posts

289 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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A couple of years ago I had a griff 500 and an elise 111s for about 6 months (ie at the same time). i generally used the griff a lot more even though I loved the elise.

Mainly because...The elise was a pain to get in&out of, less luxurious, roof a pain to take off, not as quick as the griff.

On the plus side, it was always great fun, made you feel like you were going quickly even when u werent, much better on fuel.

Hope that helped.

Dave L

228 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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I went from a Griff 500 to Honda S2000 to Elise S2 Sport tourer and I know its an Elise forum so dont want slated but it just aint the car for me. Ive had it 6 months and I want to change it already. Probably for a TVR.
Sure its cheap on fuel but I like the biggish power and am glad Ive tried "both sides" of the british sports car manufacturing but as has been said already its horses for courses.
Shnozz, fancy a p/x?

davislove

2,295 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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i'm currently in this kind of debate at the moment elise / TVR ......i've got around 15K + to spend

the people with the TVR's, do you consider them viable for track days, i.e handling, tyre wear etc

cheers

cuzza

2,042 posts

260 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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shnozz said:

Plotloss said:
Have you driven one Phil?

I tried a normal S2 and it left me feeling a little cold I have to say. Completely gutless after the Tiv, sublime handling but to get any sort of TVR like enjoyment you have to be 9/10ths or above at all times.



I have driven one but it was pre-TVR days and I remember being stunned by the handling and the performance seemed extremely quick. But that was when I owned an MGF

just cant think of many options if I were to replace the TVR. Unlike the thought of a cerb, the elise would cost me peanuts to run


Let me know if you want a blast in mine. I think you'll miss the grunt - not sure what Chimera handling is like perhaps a comparative blast down the 272??

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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You'll certainly miss the torque, the neat roof design, and the practicality of the HUUUUUGE Chimaera boot. But you'll love the feedback and sheer delicacy of the Elise. But like others have said - make sure you go for more power than 120! If you like power oversteer, then a LOT more power - the standard car takes a lot to get out of shape in the dry (great in the wet though). Elise is far better suited to doing track days too.

Went from Chimaera 500 to Cerbera which I modified loads before giving up and getting a proper track car instead. My girlfriend bought an Elise, and I persuaded her to let me put a 200bhp Honda engine in it - it's bloody fast now, and I can't imagine any road TVR keeping up around a track!

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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cuzza said:
... not sure what Chimera handling is like perhaps a comparative blast down the 272??
Opens can of worms... define handling! But I don't think would say a Chimaera handles well as standard, certainly nothing like an Elise which must be one of the best.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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davislove said:
i'm currently in this kind of debate at the moment elise / TVR ......i've got around 15K + to spend

the people with the TVR's, do you consider them viable for track days, i.e handling, tyre wear etc

cheers


TVR + Track = Big expense.

They seem overly heavy on tyres and brakes if you like a bit of arse out action

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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davislove said:
the people with the TVR's, do you consider them viable for track days, i.e handling, tyre wear etc
No! Weight is the killer, and the Chimaera/Griff in particular has woeful brakes. And they eat tyres.

Maybe I'm slightly biased, but trackdays will cost you a lot less and will be more fun in an Elise. As standard cars, they're in a different league for track suitability.

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Worth pointing out though that Elises are snappy on the limit and you need to be very skilled to catch them should the back end step out. Mid engine, low polar moment of inertia - which is why it turns in so well, its also why it steps out so damned quickly if you cock up.

davislove

2,295 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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just wish I would like a car with the engine in the right place!! .........have got an MGF VVC at the moment.....111S elise I favour is in front so far....anyone been on a EVO track day before?

clanger

1,087 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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danny who did you go Honda route with??? - considering said conversion meself