None Lotus ------ Elise S2 Wheels
Discussion
Hi,
I'd love to buy a new Elise 111R, but I must say I think the wheels are a bit.... tacky INMHO...
Plus the front are far to skinny and understeer inducing, never mind that they make the front a little bit 'weak'.
I'd look some lovely 5 - 6 spoke silver alloys which fill the depth of the wheel arch. If youv'e seen pictures of the Esthi Lotus with bigger wheels you'll see what a difference it makes.
I was going to buy a new Sport 190 last you and you can spec anything except I don't like black wheels as to me it just looks like you've had your wheels trims nicked !!! I quizzed lotus for ages about wheel choice ast this think was looking like £42K, and I wanted it to be perfect.....
Plus it's the only way you can really customise the Elise and put your own stamp on it.
Anyway Lotus wouldn't give me any wheel specs to shop around (ie offest etc). My plan was to buy the car with the Black Oz racing wheels (for trackdays), and then buy some aftermarket ones for daily use.
Do any of your guys and gals know the wheel info?
Have any of you found some nice 'after market' wheels for the Elise S2... If so, some pictures would be great.
Lotus.... Love the cars, hate the wheels !
Rich.
I'd love to buy a new Elise 111R, but I must say I think the wheels are a bit.... tacky INMHO...
Plus the front are far to skinny and understeer inducing, never mind that they make the front a little bit 'weak'.
I'd look some lovely 5 - 6 spoke silver alloys which fill the depth of the wheel arch. If youv'e seen pictures of the Esthi Lotus with bigger wheels you'll see what a difference it makes.
I was going to buy a new Sport 190 last you and you can spec anything except I don't like black wheels as to me it just looks like you've had your wheels trims nicked !!! I quizzed lotus for ages about wheel choice ast this think was looking like £42K, and I wanted it to be perfect.....
Plus it's the only way you can really customise the Elise and put your own stamp on it.
Anyway Lotus wouldn't give me any wheel specs to shop around (ie offest etc). My plan was to buy the car with the Black Oz racing wheels (for trackdays), and then buy some aftermarket ones for daily use.
Do any of your guys and gals know the wheel info?
Have any of you found some nice 'after market' wheels for the Elise S2... If so, some pictures would be great.
Lotus.... Love the cars, hate the wheels !
Rich.
S2 wheels are a very strange offset/pcd/size combo - the OZ ones are made by them for Lotus and you cannot get them anywhere else...taking the P8ss a bit as a full set of 17s with tyres in the back on Mux Power is about £800...16/17 from Lotus £1600 !
There are some available abroad - bit not cheap (£3K IIRC)- do a search on the tech board on SELOC - been discussed quite a lot.
Just get the OZs sprayed for £50 each..sorted
as for being the only way to make the car your own, have you seen mine?!
There are some available abroad - bit not cheap (£3K IIRC)- do a search on the tech board on SELOC - been discussed quite a lot.
Just get the OZs sprayed for £50 each..sorted
as for being the only way to make the car your own, have you seen mine?!
www.eliseparts.com
Try the wheel section (they have a little "change your wheel" facility so you can check different styles.
Mustard your right...but you forget the power of ££.
Lotus technician: "x is superb and makes the car handle like drag handling his beer (really well), but this y alternative is very good aswell.
Lotus execs: how much do they cost?
LT: x costs about 5 times as much as y which is...
LE: y it is then!
Try the wheel section (they have a little "change your wheel" facility so you can check different styles.
Mustard your right...but you forget the power of ££.
Lotus technician: "x is superb and makes the car handle like drag handling his beer (really well
), but this y alternative is very good aswell. Lotus execs: how much do they cost?
LT: x costs about 5 times as much as y which is...
LE: y it is then!
do a search on SELOC for PCD in the tech forum - about 8 threads
http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=16854
http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=16854
mustard said:
Rule No.1. Dont mess with the tyre sizes when buying a Lotus..... Do you really know more than the masters of Handling?
Ah, but take a look at the BBC Topgear review of the Elise S2.
Jeremy Clarkson bemoaned extreme and terminal understeer on this car. By way of response, Lotus sent him round the Hethel test track with Gavin Kershaw, then one of their Principal Chassis Engineers.
Kershaw was able to provoke powerslides at will (bearing in mind that he spent all day, every day practicing!), but when asked why the car had been made to understeer so severely he said, quote:
'because we're selling 3000 cars [per year], we have cater for all drivers'
Translation...'Because the Elise is now being bought by numpty fashion victims as well as genuine enthusiasts, we have to make it idiot proof'.
He went on to say that Lotus can supply optional bigger front tyres to prevent the understeer.
Er just because you are an enthusiast doesn't mean you can drive for shit
The number of S1s & S2s that get stacked each year is testament to that... *Not setting myself up as competent, but you hear so much drivel spouted about this from people who clearly can't drive with any skill #.
# i.e. Jeremy Clarkson. He only knows how to oversteer one way, and its the easy way...
Nah I suppose I'm just jaded looking at worthless drivers always wanting to change the car without a little bit of introspection and realisation that they'd be better served fixing themselves first with some training. Not accusing anyone specificaly, but it gets right on my tits.
Go on a track day and watch some of the people with super quick cars get caned by people in boggo machines and you'll see what I mean...
DanH said:
Nah I suppose I'm just jaded looking at worthless drivers always wanting to change the car without a little bit of introspection and realisation that they'd be better served fixing themselves first with some training. Not accusing anyone specificaly, but it gets right on my tits.
Go on a track day and watch some of the people with super quick cars get caned by people in boggo machines and you'll see what I mean...
Elise needs more power.....blah blah.......300bhp before I would buy one.....blah blah Now where's the Valium?
I do not claim to be a better driver than anyone on here
>> Edited by cuzza on Wednesday 18th February 15:35
Yah Toni's elise is a big budget one though
Those wheels cost a small fortune. Think the Oz are actually cheaper As Bogie mentioned you can improve turn in with a modified geo setup, but it makes it tramline a bit more on motorways. I have this setup at the moment, but in hindsight was probably a bit pointless given it spends more time on the road than anywhere else.
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