lotus ecosse

[dragstar]

anybody had any dealings with this lot?

just curious

cheers

sorry, also wanted to ask if anybody has fitted geary's flexi pipe/cat replacement? choosing this one because i plan to fit a new manifold in the future and so flexibility is a must.

will my car pass an MOT with cat removed?

>>> Edited by dragstar on Friday 26th September 16:33

[DanH]

Swiss Dealer. Pricey but decent quality I think. They do a good S2 harness bar that doesn't require trim cutting but costs 2x.

You can also get flex pipes from others though. Both racespeed & eliseparts sell them I think, as does yvo at www.elise-shop.nl .

Confirm with them they have the right type of flex cat, but some of them definitely sell them. Bogie even had his non flex cat made into one for very little money by janspeed. (it was a sports cat already though)

[dragstar]

ok now im really confused...

on the ecosse site the janspeed manifold retails at about £430 ish and above it the flexi pipe is £120.

but at the racespeed site the SAME manifold is described as coming with the flexi pipe for £345 + vat

??

so, as danh says, are ecosse seperating the two and charging more, or does the manifold come with the flexi pipe??

help appreciated

[DanH]

Email the shops and ask. Some manifolds have the flex in them (compromising the length of the primaries as a result genereally), some don't so require a flex cat.

Solid manifold with flex cat is meant to be best, but I dunno which manifold is most liked at the moment. Maybe ask on Seloc technical forum as I don't know enough to advise

[dragstar]

cheers dan.

[fergusd]

Let me know exactly what you're looking for, sometimes the Janspeed stuff is sold together and sometimes seperately, hence pricing confusion.

Edited to say that Janspeed/PTP tend to enforce relatively tight pricing rules for distributors so I would be surprised if there are any massive pricing differentials.

Fd
LotusEcosse

>> Edited by fergusd on Saturday 27th September 18:30

[DanH]

Oh damn. Was thinking of someone else then if lotusecosse is based in Scotland. Disregard my comments about pricing then as they refer to the swiss dealer whose name I clearly have forgotten

Apologies Fergus.

[dragstar]

im after a janspeed manifold and a cat replacement pipe.

the confusion is as to whether the manifold comes with a flexi-pipe or not (it does at racespeed.com)

OR

do lotusecosse offer the manifold and a flexi-cat replacement pipe, rather than a normal crp??

cheers

[B19GRR]

If you buy the full price manifold it comes in two parts the main 4-2-1 down pipe and the flexi link pipe that connects the 4-2-1 to what ever cat you have. It doesn't include any form of CAT. As it's got a flexi section you can use it with no problems is your regular CAT or CRP. Looking at the pics on ecosse site the smaller part is the flexi-section that fits on the end of the main part.

BTW I bought a hurricane induction from them, no probs.

Cheers,
Rob

[dragstar]

ok, but if you look at eliseparts.com, you'll see that for £99.99p there is a flexi-CRP. i thought a flexible CRP would eliminate the need for a seperate flexi-pipe which, as you say, connects to a cat/crp.

is this not right?

if so i want to know whether ecosse sell the manifold with or without the flexipipe as if it is not included ill just buy a flexible cat (probably geary's)
rather than pay extra, first for a flexi-pipe and then a crp

[B19GRR]

Nope, the flexi-link that comes with the complete manifold is an integral part of the manifold itself. In effect it's 1 part of the 4-2-1. To replace just your existing manifold you need the complete Janspeed 4-2-1 which includes the flexi-link. You can buy the flexi-link separately so that it can be replaced should the flexi section fail. I don't think you can just buy the 4-2-1 part on it's own.

Here's a pick of the link pipe. The manifold end is clamped onto the flared end next to the short flexi section. The CAT connects to the other large flange end with three bolts.


So upshot is you just buy the Janspeed 4-2-1 for £430, it comes with the flexi link and you don't need to replace your CAT.

[dragstar]

ok cheers,

thanks alot

i dont need to replace the cat, but i will anyway (should free up a tiny bit of bhp and noise!!). any opinions as to which crp/supplier you'd go for?

also, is a flexi crp of any benefit, over a normal crp, if the flexi downpipe is included (if i buy it) with the manifold.

thank you again

apologies for blantant spelling mistakes...too many san miguels!!

>> Edited by dragstar on Saturday 27th September 23:06

[fergusd]

Have just reviewed the online pricing of the Janspeed 4-2-1 and flexi section (sold deperately on LotusEcosse so you can order a new flexi section if it breaks - ultimately all flexible exhaust joints suffer from fatigue, although some are better than others !) and there was an error, prices now rectified and I'm sure you'll find competitive, remember no VAT needs added.

As for CRP's if you want a silenced one the I'd go to Geary, if not then they are, frankly, all very much the same . . . a bit of metal pipe ;-) . . .

hth

Fd

>> Edited by fergusd on Sunday 28th September 11:31

[dragstar]

thank you ferg...

i will be ordering the bits on monday (after gearys gearlinkage kit).

i have put a special "request" in the delivery section, i was just wondering if you could make sure i ensure no problems? here goes...


im a student living at a halls of residence and so i have put my flat address as the delivery address (card is registered to that address), however i'll probably be at uni when the piece is delivered and so nobody will be in, in such circumstances it's the halls policy that the delivery MUST be signed for at reception and not by flatmates/next flats.

also the security guards are numpties and refuse to open packages to inspect for damage, but will sign for it. therefore if i find any damage will i be able to return it, despite the fact it has been signed for?


cheers,

ill wait for a reply before processing the order.

[DanH]

I was pretty certain that there is a manifold that doesn't have compromised pipe lengths (i.e. which accomodate a flex section) available for the S2. It would require a flex cat though as obviously it wouldn't have its own flex section.

How much difference it makes I have no idea, but pretty certain its an option.

[B19GRR]

DanH said:

I was pretty certain that there is a manifold that doesn't have compromised pipe lengths (i.e. which accomodate a flex section) available for the S2. It would require a flex cat though as obviously it wouldn't have its own flex section. How much difference it makes I have no idea, but pretty certain its an option.

Hi Dan,

Piper make that manifold, available through Race Speed. I believe Bogie has one fitted.

[dragstar]

just got my manifold and flexi from ecosse this morning.

ordered it on monday with the exact amount (no vat added to site price), with a reasonable delivery charge.

this is sublime service, which other companies could take some lessons in. (especially "customer service" type problems).

all in all an excellent service with friendly staff.


take a look at lotusecosse.com...i dont work for them...just a very happy customer.


well done.