Buying?-quick question
Buying?-quick question
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The Bumblebee

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266 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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Hi guys, just a quick question. Would you buy a cat c or d listed Elise if fully repaired with documentation?

bordseye

2,238 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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no

Boggy

4,603 posts

265 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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Don't do it unless it's for Racing/Rallying there’s no value what so ever in either a cat D or C now the market is the way it is

Boggy

Risotto

3,933 posts

242 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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I'd assess each car individually, but in principle, yes.

The Elise is one of those cars that can end up being written off as a result of sometimes very minimal damage. Don't forget for every car that's a known write off, there's another car that's been stuffed into a tyre wall on a trackday and has been repaired in the owner's shed. No insurance involvement, no record of any damage. At least you know a write off has been damaged.

Think about it - any damage to the front or rear clam that can't be repaired means a whole new clam. The insurance company will want to carry out repairs at a professional garage. The garage will assess the damage, note the fact that an insurance company is involved, and produce an estimate based on the use of new, Lotus supplied parts. These cost A Lot Of Money and the insurance company will decide it's an uneconomic repair and cat d it.

The car will go through somewhere like Bluecycle, be bought by a salvage company and end up in the hands of someone who repairs the car using a perfectly good clam they got off a specialist breaker or eBay for a few hundred quid. Another few hundred to have the clam sprayed and the car is as good as new.

There are people who turn their noses up at these cars but as long as you inspect the car properly and there are photos/paperwork to prove the extent of the original damage and the price reflects the fact that the car has been written off then what's the problem?

You won't get much money for it when you sell it, but as long as you didn't pay much when you bought it, who cares?


Edited by Risotto on Thursday 2nd October 18:33

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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if its cheap enough, and you dont intend on selling for many years, then yes

Justin S

3,658 posts

291 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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I saw a cat d in a yard ooop north the other week on the' bay' with a crack approx 1 ft long through the rear lights on an s 1 elise the other week. That apparently was the only damage to register it.I think it was about 3.5k buy it now.

Fidgits

17,202 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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probably not

The Bumblebee

Original Poster:

266 posts

233 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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cheers guys. thinking about it, not worried about re-sale price, but the low price is attractive.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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Boggy said:
Don't do it unless it's for Racing/Rallying there’s no value what so ever in either a cat D or C now the market is the way it is

Boggy
based on exactly what?

cars are often Cat C&D'ed for sod all real damage, it's just a case of taking each car on it's own merrits.

only real downside to one is re-sale will not be the same as a non-listed car

Mark Benson

8,264 posts

299 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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The Bumblebee said:
cheers guys. thinking about it, not worried about re-sale price, but the low price is attractive.
As long as;

a) You are satisfied it's been repaired to sufficient quality
b) You know what the above actually entails
c) You accept that the hit in value will be on you at resale
d) It's sufficiently cheap

Then a write off can be a good purchase. I think a lot of insurers are a bit put off by the construction of the Elise, which can work to your advantage.

Alternatively, the construction means there can be nasties hidden in apparently light damage, so be 100% sure of what you're buying.