Lotus News Including S2 Exige First Drives

Lotus News Including S2 Exige First Drives

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DanH

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Monday 22nd September 2003
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From lotuslife :


LOTUS IN THE PRESS

EXIGE
Over the last few days, key magazines around the world have been driving an early prototype of the Lotus Exige on the Test Track at Hethel. These "first-drives" follow on from our global announcement to the world on 08 September 2003 about the Exige.

Autocar Magazine will be the first magazine to publish their impressions of their drive of the prototype Exige and this issue will go on sale on Tuesday 23 September 2003. Also in this issue, will be an interview with Victor Kiam and Simon Wood and a situation report at Lotus including the latest on Lotus Engineering's developments.

Over the next few weeks, Exige prototype drives will be seen in the following media:

* Automobile Revue (Switzerland)
* Automotor und Sport (Germany)
* Auto Hebdo (France)
* Evo (Italy)
* Evo (UK)
* Car Graphic (Japan)
* Motor (Australia)


PININFARINA ENJOY
On 17th and 18th September, 25 journalists from across Europe were invited by Pininfarina to its test facility near Paris to drive its Enjoy concept car, for which Lotus Engineering is a key technical partner.

Gavan Kershaw from Lotus' Ride and Handling team attended the event to explain Lotus' work on the vehicle dynamics of the Enjoy, and to offer demo drives for journalists who wanted to experience its optimum performance.

The Enjoy, originally shown at the Geneva Motorshow in March 2003, is based on the Lotus Elise's epoxy-bonded extruded aluminium chassis. The one-off 'barchetta' was at Hethel from mid-July to mid-August for ride & handling development, and for an engine upgrade to 135bhp.

The inevitable question around whether the car would be put into production was answered by Andrea Pininfarina, the Italian company's CEO. He explained that with Lotus, Pininfarina is currently investigating the feasibility of producing the Enjoy. If given the green light, only around 100 units would be produced, and the car would not be badged a Pininfarina or a Lotus.

Pininfarina judged the event a resounding success, and were very grateful for Lotus' co-operation. Coverage of the Enjoy drives is expected over the next few weeks in publications across western Europe.






Once again Lotus have taken the honours at the annual Autocar Sideways Challenge held at Silverstone. Gavan Kershaw and Matt Becker headed off stiff competition in the face of such stars as Justin Wilson, Phil Bennett, Markko Martin, Tiff Needell and Autocar's Chris Harris, to come first and second respectively.

With no practice laps and the need to put a car sideways three times in a single run around Priory, Brooklands and Luffield, the guys, using the Autocar supplied BMW M3, beat off more than 85 other drivers to bring the title back home to Hethel for the fifth time in the event's six year history.

bobble hat

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254 months

Monday 22nd September 2003
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Handed over my deposit for my s2 exige last week . just to keep my options open . dont get me wrong i love my S1 but every one has to move forward. Hope we see it before summer.

DanH

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Monday 22nd September 2003
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Got a fully refundable deposit down too. Dealer was talking Apr/May delivery.

cacatous

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Monday 22nd September 2003
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How much is it?

DanH

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Monday 22nd September 2003
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32-35k is being bandied about. Hoping its at the low end of that. May just get deposit back if it creeps.

bobble hat

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Tuesday 23rd September 2003
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lets face it even if it does touch 35k , what else can you get for that sort of money, and dont even mention VX220 . Im talking about cars not dinky toys.

guysh

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290 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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You might well be able to get a second hand Noble by then with probably less than 20k on the clock

bobble hat said:
lets face it even if it does touch 35k , what else can you get for that sort of money, and dont even mention VX220 . Im talking about cars not dinky toys.

DanH

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Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Yes, but a second hand noble is very expensive to run

(disks 280 quid a piece, pads 130 quid a pair, set of tyres 800+ etc. etc.)

guysh

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Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Tyres actually more like £600 if you go to the right place (Exige S1 tyres were certainly not cheap when I had one) -as for the rest of the stuff maybe slightly more expensive but not dramatically, I really can't see the S2 being the car the S1 was.... -I will test drive one thought when available... (BTW this is all IMHO)

DanH said:

Yes, but a second hand noble is very expensive to run

(disks 280 quid a piece, pads 130 quid a pair, set of tyres 800+ etc. etc.)

DanL

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272 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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bobble hat said:
lets face it even if it does touch 35k , what else can you get for that sort of money, and dont even mention VX220 . Im talking about cars not dinky toys.
Bah - my VX isn't a dinky toy - looks more like something from Tonka.

Dan

Stuart

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258 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Autocar has a first drive in this weeks issue. The car looks superb. Just superb...

DanH

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Wednesday 24th September 2003
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guy those prices I quoted are straight from Mole Valley. 600 quid for a set of tyres? As if! Its 500 quid for the two rears!

Show me an Elise disk that costs 280 quid as well!

clanger

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265 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Stuart - the car is a mule - its not the real thing - it is totally unfinished - its just a press taster... Where are the engine piccies?, where are the performance figures? where are the driving impressions? - note the subtle shading of the pics and the black colour chosen (not to mention the well worn bodywork) - ask yourself how does the rear engine cowl and wing fit together - not well I think... Great to see Lotus in the news with a new car rather than a paint jobbie but lots of work to do yet before I'm tempted

bobble hat

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254 months

Thursday 25th September 2003
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VX220 / NOBLE ARE YOU LOT PUDDLED OR WHAT . THERE JUST PRETEND SPORTS CARS . IF YOU WANT A SPORTS CAR YOU DONT BUY A CAR WITH A GRIFFIN ON THE FRONT DO YOU . IF THE EXIGE TOUCHED 35K ITS WORTH SPENDING THAT BIT EXTRA FOR THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING YOUR DRIVING A HERITAGE NOT A HERRING.

DanH

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Thursday 25th September 2003
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Um screw heritage. It all happened before I was born anyway. If the VX220 was a better car (for me) I'd have bought one. I'd also gladly own a Noble except that its in a different league of costs, and frankly they still need a lot of loving from the factory.

Bonce

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286 months

Thursday 25th September 2003
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Bobble Hat, that's a pretty extreme attitude to take (no need to shout by the way).

I think you are well and truly alone on here if you regard Noble and VX220 as "herrings" or any less "sports car" than the Elise range.

Bonkers!

guysh

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Thursday 25th September 2003
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DanH said:

guy those prices I quoted are straight from Mole Valley. 600 quid for a set of tyres? As if! Its 500 quid for the two rears!

Show me an Elise disk that costs 280 quid as well!




Well the less said about mv the better....

I paid 340 pounds for my last set of rears fitted and balanced.... 170 each....

I think you will be pleasantly surprised about the running costs of a noble - I have been - not a huge amount more than my Exige was - then again I do have a bit of a chip on my shoulder about lotus - it called the M250 and a lost deposit..... but that's another tail. I will hold station until I have had a chance to drive the new Exige....

>> Edited by guysh on Thursday 25th September 11:51

madasahatter

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Thursday 25th September 2003
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bobble hat said:
VX220 / NOBLE ARE YOU LOT PUDDLED OR WHAT . THERE JUST PRETEND SPORTS CARS . IF YOU WANT A SPORTS CAR YOU DONT BUY A CAR WITH A GRIFFIN ON THE FRONT DO YOU . IF THE EXIGE TOUCHED 35K ITS WORTH SPENDING THAT BIT EXTRA FOR THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING YOUR DRIVING A HERITAGE NOT A HERRING.


Maybe there is an outside chance that Bobble Hat drives a car because of the name? Heritage is possibly just an excuse.

Pagani Zonda's don't have any Heritage from what I have heard, but I would still buy one if I had that sort of money to throw away. It wouldn't be for the name, it would be for the car.

Horses for courses, but no need to just blast a car because of its name/badge IMHO.

If you are talking about the S2 Exige, then the equivalent VX is of course the forthcoming VX Sprint. It is likely to weight in at something like the Exige's weight, and have 260Bhp/270lbft. To drive the VX Sprint back to back with the S2 Exige would be a VERY cool opportunity.

One mans Angelina Jolie is another man's Jodie Foster. Live and let live I say.

If you want to slag off cars (including Lotus ones) then go to SELOC. It seems to be their Raison d'etre.

DanH

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Thursday 25th September 2003
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Yeah if they put the sprint engine in a prettier car I'd be more interested. Also the sprint is going to be a lot more hardcore than the S2 Exige given that it has no boot at all! (which rules it out for me as I'm not able to run 2 cars).

Oh not to mention the fuel starvation issue the sprint was having at high g's according to one test driver who has enough credibility for me to believe.

guysh

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290 months

Thursday 25th September 2003
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bobble hat said:
VX220 / NOBLE ARE YOU LOT PUDDLED OR WHAT . THERE JUST PRETEND SPORTS CARS . IF YOU WANT A SPORTS CAR YOU DONT BUY A CAR WITH A GRIFFIN ON THE FRONT DO YOU . IF THE EXIGE TOUCHED 35K ITS WORTH SPENDING THAT BIT EXTRA FOR THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING YOUR DRIVING A HERITAGE NOT A HERRING.


what a joke!!!