Elise 2/VX220 Turbo/VX220 Turbo Sprint

Elise 2/VX220 Turbo/VX220 Turbo Sprint

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p290 kvp

Original Poster:

728 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Few questions. Just driven all above and would like to know...

1 - Why do they all understeer massively
2 - Why does the VX220 suffer from fuel starvation when the Elise doesn't? Even with over 30l on board!

clanger

1,087 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Unfortunately they understeer because that's what they're designed to do - because we're apparently all used to FWD Euroboxes now and manufacturers don't want us stuffing their cars with anything as daring as oversteer - can be overcome on all said cars by wheel/tyre mods. shame, give me a tail happy car anytime, but we know designers know best

B19GRR

1,980 posts

263 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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1, skinny front tyres, there to cause understeer rather than snap oversteer. Elise S2, VX220 have 175 front. The Elise S1 had 185 or often 195 IIRC and is noted for tail happiness. Surprised about the VX Sprint as that should have wider fronts and very sticky tyres.

2, Elise has Rover K series engine, VX has Vauxhall engine. I guess the sumps are different.


I take it from both your observations that you were giving the cars some serious large?

clanger

1,087 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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VXT Sprint uses Exige wheels and tyres.

p290 kvp

Original Poster:

728 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Sprint was better at resisting the U/S but still incredible for an enthusiasts motor. It would have been quite a good car but for the fact that the motor would cut after only 4 laps from a full tank!!

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Sounds like you need an Elise 135R

Or maybe a VX220 sprint?

sagalout

18,848 posts

289 months

Friday 15th August 2003
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Or a TVR........

P290 KVP

Original Poster:

728 posts

255 months

Friday 15th August 2003
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I'm talking about a VX220 Sprint! TVR? I don't think so.

sagalout

18,848 posts

289 months

Friday 15th August 2003
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oooh touchy this morning...... sorry, I wus jist possing by the dour...

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Friday 15th August 2003
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Someone complains about handling balance and you suggest a TVR? lol. TVRs are wonderful cars in many many ways, but handling?

DanL

6,436 posts

272 months

Friday 15th August 2003
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P290 KVP said:
I'm talking about a VX220 Sprint! TVR? I don't think so.
Bugger me - you've driven the sprint?! Who do you know at Vauxhall?

Dan

Gfun

620 posts

256 months

Sunday 17th August 2003
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Understeer/oversteer

I had my S2 long enough to get used to it and 'push it'

Don’t know about the VX but I find it only will only understeer if I run into a corner off power.

Power it in and it will oversteer every time more power more oversteer.

Only caveat is on a long fast bends I have cocked it up and run out of power to keep feeding in and have got away with a nasty twitch as it tried to spin but otherwise - On the power you can play with oversteer all day.

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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DanL said:

P290 KVP said:
I'm talking about a VX220 Sprint! TVR? I don't think so.

Bugger me - you've driven the sprint?! Who do you know at Vauxhall?


!

Wonder if he'll come back to PH again.

DanL

6,436 posts

272 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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:tumbleweed:

madasahatter

374 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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He is sooooo missed.....