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Additional points:
+ They are more original and in the spirit of the car
+ Your wheels stay cleaner as they make less dust
- They have been known to crack or melt under hard (track day) usage!
Still got mine and like them, but you have to live with their idiosyncracies. Simon's not kidding about the wet thing, be very careful with your braking distance on foggy winter mornings and in the rain.
AdrianR
+ They are more original and in the spirit of the car
+ Your wheels stay cleaner as they make less dust
- They have been known to crack or melt under hard (track day) usage!
Still got mine and like them, but you have to live with their idiosyncracies. Simon's not kidding about the wet thing, be very careful with your braking distance on foggy winter mornings and in the rain.
AdrianR
kambites said:
I've only driven on them briefly but have the same experience as others. They're severely flawed to the point of being a liability for use on a daily-driver road car; for a "sunny days only" second car or track car, I can imagine them being fabulous.
that's over-dramatising the wet problem...once you know about it, it really is no big deal, only is a problem when the cars got very wet standing (ie, you just washed it) or driving in very wet conditions and not using the brakes for miles (raid + Mway)
even then, all you have to remember is to tap the pedal every so often to 'dry' them off..
Biggest problem was washing the car, then going to park it in the garage and not being able to stop before hitting the wall, all in slow motion!
Scuffers said:
once you know about it, it really is no big deal, only is a problem when the cars got very wet standing (ie, you just washed it) or driving in very wet conditions and not using the brakes for miles (raid + Mway)
I found it to be significantly worse than that but maybe there was something slightly wrong with the car I drove; to be honest my S2 when I bought it with EBC Greenstuff pads on it was just as bad. Anyway personally I'd rather have steel brakes on a daily driver.
Scuffers said:
that's over-dramatising the wet problem...
once you know about it, it really is no big deal, only is a problem when the cars got very wet standing (ie, you just washed it) or driving in very wet conditions and not using the brakes for miles (raid + Mway)
even then, all you have to remember is to tap the pedal every so often to 'dry' them off..
Biggest problem was washing the car, then going to park it in the garage and not being able to stop before hitting the wall, all in slow motion!
This. once you know about it, it really is no big deal, only is a problem when the cars got very wet standing (ie, you just washed it) or driving in very wet conditions and not using the brakes for miles (raid + Mway)
even then, all you have to remember is to tap the pedal every so often to 'dry' them off..
Biggest problem was washing the car, then going to park it in the garage and not being able to stop before hitting the wall, all in slow motion!
I used MMCs year-round on my S1 when it was my daily driver, in all weathers, and never had any moments due to wet discs. The modern pad compound is far better than the OEM stuff in that regard. They also give fabulous pedal feel when warm. Over the years I've tried many different pad compounds (Pagid blue/black, CL, EBC green/yellow/blue) on iron discs, and as a fast road setup the MMCs are a match for the best of them, with the added benefit of being much lighter.
The only use I would avoid with them is heavy track work with sticky tyres, especially in a higher-powered car, as the discs can fail if they overheat.
The only use I would avoid with them is heavy track work with sticky tyres, especially in a higher-powered car, as the discs can fail if they overheat.
kambites said:
It'd be interesting to try some to see how good they are. I always liked the idea of MMC brakes but wasn't impressed with the original execution. Not that I have any particular intention of owning an S1 anyway.
I have only driven with these new pads in passing, so can't really definitively comment on their day to day performance, that said, they are much better with the wet problem.Gassing Station | Elise/Exige/Europa/340R | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff