Exige V6 v`s Elise S1/S2

Exige V6 v`s Elise S1/S2

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CTE

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1,494 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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I currently have an Evora S which is basically fantastic on the road and very good on track, but it is definitely set up as more of a road car than a track car. I would like to do more trackdays, and one side of me thinks I should get another set of wheels and tyres for track work...that would work better than the standard road set up.
The other idea is to get an Elise S1/S2 for trackdays and occasional sunny days (I think we used to get them?)...and keep the Evora. I had a supercharged Elise before I got the Evora...so am familiar with how they drive on the road and track.

Alternatively one side is nagging at me to swap the Evora for an Exige V6 (run one car only which suits me in many ways, and I have test driven an Exige V6), but I know it will not be as good on the road, especially for longer trips, as the Evora...although you can unbolt the roof for sunny days.

The question is, has anyone driven both the Exige V6 and an Elise on track (to compare, given the added weight of the V6 car), and within this I have not driven an S1 to know how much better the older lighter car may be when compared to the newer S2/V6?

bobo

1,706 posts

283 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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CTE said:
I currently have an Evora S which is basically fantastic on the road and very good on track, but it is definitely set up as more of a road car than a track car. I would like to do more trackdays, and one side of me thinks I should get another set of wheels and tyres for track work...that would work better than the standard road set up.
The other idea is to get an Elise S1/S2 for trackdays and occasional sunny days (I think we used to get them?)...and keep the Evora. I had a supercharged Elise before I got the Evora...so am familiar with how they drive on the road and track.

Alternatively one side is nagging at me to swap the Evora for an Exige V6 (run one car only which suits me in many ways, and I have test driven an Exige V6), but I know it will not be as good on the road, especially for longer trips, as the Evora...although you can unbolt the roof for sunny days.

The question is, has anyone driven both the Exige V6 and an Elise on track (to compare, given the added weight of the V6 car), and within this I have not driven an S1 to know how much better the older lighter car may be when compared to the newer S2/V6?
yes.

depends on what you want the car to do.

the v6 is a good compromise imho between road and track car. you can easily be the quickest production car on any track in the v6. is that the fun you are after though? the v6 feels a tad heavier, has linear delivery, is brutally quick makes genuine super car noises etc compared to a 4 pot s1/2s. its quite a different experience because of the bigger footprint (has stloads more grip etc) and big cc engine so big torque relative. but none of the good stuff has been lost if you know what i mean?

i think the track capabilities of this car are already well discussed.... so wont go on. its in a bit of a leaguie of its own. there's a Belgian chap on seloc that has a gt3 and a v6 and tracks both regularly. he would be a good guy to pick brains.

you can drive it home in comfort, ticking over at 80mph without any rattles and actually hear the shipping forecast let alone music.

i drove around europe so LND - NCE - BCN - NCE - MIL - PSG - LDN with my then 2.5 yo boy last summer. I took the car on monza (a very fast circuit if you dont know) and had no problem sticking to 458s bar a few v fast points on track but would reel them in elsewhere and a 430 scud on slicks that was v v committed and just blew me away. it was a total pleasure and great fun too. and for the performance, cheap to run (everything is relative), nothing feels like it or goes like it and the 'eyetyes' were more interested in my exige than their local exotica. it gets a lot of attn. could have been the paint job who knows!

no doubt the evora would be more comfortable on that journey, the s1 far less so and neither anywhere near as quick on track.

depends what you want, what floats your boat. an r300 will always be more fun on track than my v6 but there's no way i would buy one as i use my v6 as a daily driver. but its a car that is a jack of all trades really. proviso being you already know and can live with a few of the s2 shortcomings... i kind of celebrate them really so perhaps im rose tinted/an idiot.

the fuss about v6s is over now so try and get your dealer to lend you one for 24hrs or go and get a pax with one on track ? theres a few out there now doing track days.

hope that helps and good luck.

CTE

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1,494 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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My Evora eats tyres, especially on track...how does your Exige fair?

subaqua

892 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Spent a day at Hethel in my SC Honda S1 with 2x V6 exige...The cup car driven by a race driver... and a standard car driven by 2 TD peeps.

The driver of the cup car was much more committed than I into windsock and pulled 2 second a lap there but little else. I was running a couple of seconds a lap faster than the standard car.

Given the price to change from your Evora would be 15k.... wouldnl;t a honda/audi/high power K car fit your bill for a fast track car... and you could keep the Evora for weekend trips?

CTE

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1,494 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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That is my thought process and financially there is very little in it, and because there is very little financially in it, the choice is very difficult. Infact overall over a couple of years it is slightly cheaper to get the new Exige (which is why I am trying to get a feel/comparison), and I do not ideally want the hassle of running two cars. However, the Evora is brilliant in its own right, and what a collection to own.

This might be sacrilege to some here, but it has crossed my mind to get a turbo VX220!!!

flatfour

299 posts

233 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Are you coming out? ;o)

flatfour

299 posts

233 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Are you coming out? ;o)

flatfour

299 posts

233 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Are you coming out? ;o)

rosino

1,348 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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bobo said:
i drove around europe so LND - NCE - BCN - NCE - MIL - PSG - LDN with my then 2.5 yo boy last summer. I took the car on monza (a very fast circuit if you dont know) and had no problem sticking to 458s bar a few v fast points on track but would reel them in elsewhere and a 430 scud on slicks that was v v committed and just blew me away. it was a total pleasure and great fun too. and for the performance, cheap to run (everything is relative), nothing feels like it or goes like it and the 'eyetyes' were more interested in my exige than their local exotica. it gets a lot of attn. could have been the paint job who knows!

no doubt the evora would be more comfortable on that journey, the s1 far less so and neither anywhere near as quick on track.
This is interesting, I had a S2 190 that I found basically unusable for normal driving. Fun for 20mins or for a blast on Sunday morning but way too focused for normal driving. The noise was the killer really, had to drive with earplugs as driving at 80mph with engine screaming/droning was plain unbearable. On track it was a different story of course, the purest driving I had.. Great to learn, if a little slow maybe on fast tracks and lack of throttle adjustability given too much grip for the torque.

I have been secretely considering the V6 Exige as an alternative to the 991 GT3 which might never show up if they continue like this....