Best Elise Aero

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pigeondave

Original Poster:

216 posts

233 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Hi,

I was wondering what the best aero upgrades are for an elise.
Are the vents above the wheels worth it?
What is the best rear diffuser ?
etc.

Thanks


kambites

68,178 posts

226 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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The only thing that I've ever noticed make any difference is a front splitter. If you're running at road ride-heights, the diffuser doesn't really do anything, in my experience.

The extended side vents probably make drag worse but they do provide extra cooling to the engine bay.

Thorburn

2,406 posts

198 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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This looks pretty comprehensive for track use. smile


hondansx

4,638 posts

230 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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I would not mess with an Elise's look without ensuring you have the absolute best suspension set up and have exhausted your own ability. These factors account for huge chunks of time, aero counts for tenths.

With diffusers and splitters, you've got the increased chance of doing damage if you have an off. If you think you're billy big bks, then come race in LCUK and the answer is quite simple: do whatever you can within the regs smile

JACK6284

333 posts

228 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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On my S2 Elise a front splitter did make a difference at motorway speeds. However, I was forever catching it on low curbs and sleeping policemen.

Different non-standard rear spoilers are just for Max Power boys

Scuffers

20,887 posts

279 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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at road speeds, aero is not a big factor/problem.

pigeondave

Original Poster:

216 posts

233 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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hondansx said:
If you think you're billy big bks, then come race in LCUK and the answer is quite simple: do whatever you can within the regs smile
I should have been a bit more truthful from the start.
I have a kit car and was looking at getting some ideas from Lotus about aero.

A friend has a R1 Fury, he has worked out that he is doing approx 37mpg as a steady cruse on the motorway.
He has almost a full flat floor and a bit of a diffuser out the back. I was looking at using some of the Lotus ideas to improve my aero.

That's why I was asking.

I don't have the available funds to race and I have had no training. Im looking at doing some car limits days once I have the car sorted.

Thanks for the replys biggrin

Holmes14A

62 posts

258 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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I shall be going for a front splitter and the SC rear spoiler on my 111R Elise. Not because I'm off to the Ring or anything, the front end just feels a bit light at motorway speeds.

The front splitters are pretty subtle really and as long as you don't destroy it on a stump/kerb etc it should be fine. As for the SC rear spoiler, I just like the look of the SC but cant justify spendinding 10K over the value of mine to get the look. £300 of spoiler will do just fine thanks

cortell

58 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Holmes14A said:
I shall be going for a front splitter and the SC rear spoiler on my 111R Elise. Not because I'm off to the Ring or anything, the front end just feels a bit light at motorway speeds.

The front splitters are pretty subtle really and as long as you don't destroy it on a stump/kerb etc it should be fine. As for the SC rear spoiler, I just like the look of the SC but cant justify spendinding 10K over the value of mine to get the look. £300 of spoiler will do just fine thanks
The tiny little splitter at std Elise suspension heights will make bugger all difference. And I really doubt your Elise is getting light at motorway speeds, and if it is then it's something else. It looks 'racy' and that's the real reason you're doing it. (; Nothing wrong with that but don't kid yourself.

kambites

68,178 posts

226 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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pigeondave said:
I should have been a bit more truthful from the start.
I have a kit car and was looking at getting some ideas from Lotus about aero.

A friend has a R1 Fury, he has worked out that he is doing approx 37mpg as a steady cruse on the motorway.
He has almost a full flat floor and a bit of a diffuser out the back. I was looking at using some of the Lotus ideas to improve my aero.

That's why I was asking.

I don't have the available funds to race and I have had no training. Im looking at doing some car limits days once I have the car sorted.

Thanks for the replys biggrin
What are you trying to achieve? Better fuel economy? Better balance (if so which way does it need to be adjusted)? It might be useful to know what type of kit car it is, too. smile

pigeondave

Original Poster:

216 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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kambites said:
What are you trying to achieve? Better fuel economy? Better balance (if so which way does it need to be adjusted)? It might be useful to know what type of kit car it is, too. smile
Its a Fisher Fury with a 2.0 Zetec.
I'm looking for better fuel economy. (sounds silly I know) Then balance.

I was really looking for information on if anyone has found that the aftermarket splitters and such are noticeably better than what lotus have done.
I would then try to implement similar things to the Fury.

I do a big tour of the Alps every year (Pyrenees and Alps this year) and am in the process of changing from Weber 45's to injection to try to get the mpg up a bit.
Im thinking aero mods could also help.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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pigeondave said:
kambites said:
What are you trying to achieve? Better fuel economy? Better balance (if so which way does it need to be adjusted)? It might be useful to know what type of kit car it is, too. smile
Its a Fisher Fury with a 2.0 Zetec.
I'm looking for better fuel economy. (sounds silly I know) Then balance.

I was really looking for information on if anyone has found that the aftermarket splitters and such are noticeably better than what lotus have done.
I would then try to implement similar things to the Fury.

I do a big tour of the Alps every year (Pyrenees and Alps this year) and am in the process of changing from Weber 45's to injection to try to get the mpg up a bit.
Im thinking aero mods could also help.
not sure anything relevant to the Elise is going to translate to a Fury?

Also, just about everything you bolt on will increase drag.

kambites

68,178 posts

226 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Given that the Fury already has quite a sharp cut-off at the back, I don't think anything you add is going to significantly reduce drag (with the possible exception of a roof).

If you find that the front-end lifts at speed, you might benefit from a splitter but it's not going to have an appreciable effect on drag either way.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

270 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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I'd start by getting this book out of the library:

Competition Car Aerodynamics

It'll give you some ideas to try, and tell you how to make and test them.