I've found a flaw with my Elise

[MagicalTrevor]

It has too much grip

I was playing around on the A4069 seeing how fast I could go round a corner before bottling it. Needless to say, my car h waaaaay more ability than me!
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I'm sure if I knew how then I could get the back end more than merely 'losing traction a bit'

So how on earth do I get oversteer without approaching that bend at stupid speed!?

[Mr E]

I'd suggest oversteer in a swb mid-rear car with rear tyres that big and sticky is best explored well away from the public road.

Sarah spun ours at the track, and when it goes, it goes bloody fast.

[MagicalTrevor]

Mr E said:

I'd suggest oversteer in a swb mid-rear car with rear tyres that big and sticky is best explored well away from the public road.

Sarah spun ours at the track, and when it goes, it goes bloody fast.

Fair enough, at least it's not me being a complete spaz!

[Great Pretender]

MagicalTrevor said:

It has too much grip

I was playing around on the A4069 seeing how fast I could go round a corner before bottling it. Needless to say, my car h waaaaay more ability than me!
Video Clip

I'm sure if I knew how then I could get the back end more than merely 'losing traction a bit'

So how on earth do I get oversteer without approaching that bend at stupid speed!?

Buy a car with some actual power?

Sorry, not v. helpful, but the Elise isn't a powersliding monster. It will go sideways, but you'll be lifting off at speed to do it, which, as above, isn't something you want to do on the road.

You might get a tweak in the wet, but tbh, you sound like a bit of a novice, so best to try this sort of stuff on track or under tuition first?

[MagicalTrevor]

Great Pretender said:

You might get a tweak in the wet, but tbh, you sound like a bit of a novice, so best to try this sort of stuff on track or under tuition first?

Walshy day for me then

[Diablos-666]

Scandanavian flick and boot full of throttle in second?

[Great Pretender]

MagicalTrevor said:

Great Pretender said:

You might get a tweak in the wet, but tbh, you sound like a bit of a novice, so best to try this sort of stuff on track or under tuition first?

Walshy day for me then

I know from personal experience how snappy the Elise can be, and the road is not somewhere you want to discover this.

[Great Pretender]

Diablos-666 said:

Scandanavian flick and boot full of throttle in second?

Err, no.

[Scuffers]

err... easy

pile into the corner on the brakes, and either:

1) turn in whilst still on the brakes to the point it starts to step out, then boot it.
2) turn in, then suddenly lift, wait the the back, then boot it.

1st is harder to get right.

[MagicalTrevor]

Thanks guys, sounds like its best tried on track.

If it'd be dangerous then I'm simply not interested time and a place and all that

[Mr E]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tnK4F0zGpE

Results of an ill-advised lift though a medium speed corner @ about 2:00

[Paul_M3]

I can confirm that turning in whilst having only just come off the brakes will get the rear end moving...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTlUL9jljsk

[Scuffers]

MagicalTrevor said:

Thanks guys, sounds like its best tried on track.

If it'd be dangerous then I'm simply not interested time and a place and all that

kind of depends, but doing either on a public road could be classed as dumb.

[MKnight702]

MagicalTrevor said:

It has too much grip

I was playing around on the A4069 seeing how fast I could go round a corner before bottling it. Needless to say, my car h waaaaay more ability than me!
Video Clip

I'm sure if I knew how then I could get the back end more than merely 'losing traction a bit'

So how on earth do I get oversteer without approaching that bend at stupid speed!?

This is why I prefer the ditch finders fitted to my Eleven. They may have little grip, but they slide magnificently on track, 4 wheel drifting round the apex is fun!

[Scuffers]

MKnight702 said:

This is why I prefer the ditch finders fitted to my Eleven. They may have little grip, but they slide magnificently on track, 4 wheel drifting round the apex is fun!

on track, you can do that with almost any tyre if you try hard enough:

Kuhmo V70A's

[Zoobeef]

I see the school holidays are here

[MagicalTrevor]

Zoobeef said:

I see the school holidays are here

Strange comment mate!

[Exige77]

MagicalTrevor said:

Zoobeef said:

I see the school holidays are here

Strange comment mate!

Bit of a strange thread.

Ex77

[jhfozzy]

It is a difficult corner to get right to be honest, I really have to push my Evo to get it to slide.

However, with plenty of right foot, 1st gear & once the electrics have given up, it can slide quite nicely.

[MKnight702]

Scuffers said:

on track, you can do that with almost any tyre if you try hard enough:
Kuhmo V70A's

True, however, with the ditchfinders (Avon CR322) I believe the limit is not so knife edge. There is no way that I will corner as fast, but slides happen relatively progressively.