Exige V6 laptime.
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Posted on facebook today:
EXIGE S UPDATE: It just came back from our Hethel test track and we can reveal that during final testing its lap times have been compared to the Mk2 Exige Cup 260.
The new Exige S is up to 5 seconds a lap faster then the old Exige Cup 260.
2012 Exige S, Trofeo tyres, Lotus DPM in Race mode: 1 min 32.68 seconds
Exige cup 260, Yokohama A048: 1 min 37.90 seconds
EXIGE S UPDATE: It just came back from our Hethel test track and we can reveal that during final testing its lap times have been compared to the Mk2 Exige Cup 260.
The new Exige S is up to 5 seconds a lap faster then the old Exige Cup 260.
2012 Exige S, Trofeo tyres, Lotus DPM in Race mode: 1 min 32.68 seconds
Exige cup 260, Yokohama A048: 1 min 37.90 seconds
GTRene said:
what do you mean by 2 sec change?
they speak of 5 sec or do you mean compared to another Lotus car.
I think what Scuffers means that everytime Lotus bring out a new model they always say it's 2 seconds a lap faster than the old model.they speak of 5 sec or do you mean compared to another Lotus car.
Has become a little joke in the Lotus community.
Ex77
Boggy said:
I think before judging we have to wait and see just how quick/good the new Exige S is, all I can say is from what I already know it's a better package than anything else currently on sale.
This is based on fact not pub talk
Boggy
based on exactly what?This is based on fact not pub talk
Boggy
you guys do make me laugh with statements like this, you just make yourselves look like blinkered fan-boys...
If the car is good, it will stand on it's own merits, at this point in time, it's just not possible to make such comments.
I have no doubt the V6 is faster than the 260 but 5 seconds is a significant amount of time around a 1 min 30 circuit. Especially when the 260 weighed 890Kg, had AP brakes, Ohlins, A048's and wasn't exactly shoddy.
Wait til the journalists get ahold of the car and give it a proper shakedown. The biggest concern I have is the gearbox because pretty much every journo who reviewed the Evora S said it was crap. The V6 has potential but thats all it is at this point.
Wait til the journalists get ahold of the car and give it a proper shakedown. The biggest concern I have is the gearbox because pretty much every journo who reviewed the Evora S said it was crap. The V6 has potential but thats all it is at this point.
You know what I'd rather be a rose tinted/blinkered fan boy than a miserable joyless cynic anyday. It's so easy to knock everything. It's so chicken s
t. It takes a lot more guts to stand up for something and stick your neck out. There are people in life who build sandcastles and there are those who kick them in. Regardless it's their loss. Life must be unbearable when you can only see the bad.
If you want to be cynical about Lotus why not be cynical about motoring journalists too? Chris Harris has shown just how biased he is towards porsche for all the world to see since joining pistonheads. He's also revealed how badly ferrari bend the rules of fair play when it comes to road tests and laptimes. And we all know they're not the only ones. This idea of an objective test from the media is laughable.
It's really not that hard to believe it's faster. Not long ago most here were saying how the 260 Cup is not really any faster than the 240 Cup, now it's this unbeatable track weapon?! What's happening here is people don't want it to be faster for reasons best kept to themselves.
As for the gearbox thing, have you any first hand experience? I have and the gearbox was absolutely fine, seriously, no issues at all and it was not the latest model. From the 6 or so Evora S's used for the Lotus Driving Academy day (nb they have a very hard life) some said that one of the cars had a less than perfect gearbox but the rest were fine. I never experienced that particular car so I can't comment. The journo's picking on the gearbox is merely what they pick up on when they're looking for faults, which is part of their job.
The Exige uses all the upgrades to the MY12 Evora gearchange so why this assumption that it will be bad? Why not wait to see for yourself? Surely that matters far more than what some Chris Harris or whoever thinks?
t. It takes a lot more guts to stand up for something and stick your neck out. There are people in life who build sandcastles and there are those who kick them in. Regardless it's their loss. Life must be unbearable when you can only see the bad.If you want to be cynical about Lotus why not be cynical about motoring journalists too? Chris Harris has shown just how biased he is towards porsche for all the world to see since joining pistonheads. He's also revealed how badly ferrari bend the rules of fair play when it comes to road tests and laptimes. And we all know they're not the only ones. This idea of an objective test from the media is laughable.
It's really not that hard to believe it's faster. Not long ago most here were saying how the 260 Cup is not really any faster than the 240 Cup, now it's this unbeatable track weapon?! What's happening here is people don't want it to be faster for reasons best kept to themselves.
As for the gearbox thing, have you any first hand experience? I have and the gearbox was absolutely fine, seriously, no issues at all and it was not the latest model. From the 6 or so Evora S's used for the Lotus Driving Academy day (nb they have a very hard life) some said that one of the cars had a less than perfect gearbox but the rest were fine. I never experienced that particular car so I can't comment. The journo's picking on the gearbox is merely what they pick up on when they're looking for faults, which is part of their job.
The Exige uses all the upgrades to the MY12 Evora gearchange so why this assumption that it will be bad? Why not wait to see for yourself? Surely that matters far more than what some Chris Harris or whoever thinks?
devils advocate (and perhaps a little more balanced!) even if mildly exaggerated would that make like for like (new) the 260 expensive and the v6 cheap ? lol ....
the spot light is so firmly on lotus at the mo the downside to making ridiculous statements is huge considering press reports on the v6 are imminent. they will get absolutely slated, game over.
the v6 has to be a bit of a knock out really.... otherwise shutters down.
as scuffham said; who knows until its out there.
the spot light is so firmly on lotus at the mo the downside to making ridiculous statements is huge considering press reports on the v6 are imminent. they will get absolutely slated, game over.
the v6 has to be a bit of a knock out really.... otherwise shutters down.
as scuffham said; who knows until its out there.
Edited by bobo on Wednesday 18th April 10:28
Everyone on here knows I'm a huge fan of the Cup 260. I've fought tooth and nail with most here to defend it.
For the record I still think it's better looking than the V6 Exige. I like the way it revs over 8k too, unlike the new V6. Screaming small capacity engines seem right in small, light cars. There is a question mark over the gearchange quality but many here used to slag the old cars gearbox too.
But I have no problem at all believing it's considerably faster around a lap. For one thing the Evora S would be very hard to shake off in a Cup 260, yet the new Exige is 200kg lighter. The Exige is very similar to what the Evora GT racers weigh in at.
As usual people on here seem to want to see it fail. Again to my point about the myth of objective journalism, there's no way they won't be swayed by the crisis at Lotus when it comes to the reviews. I expect to see if anything more positive reviews than the car deserves. You can see the stories already, 'If this is the last hurrah for Lotus, what a way to go.' The trouble with this story is that it further erodes confidence in the company which will only drive people to the porsche showroom. There was no rush to buy TVRs near the end, despite glowing reviews they just went out with a whimper.
And bobo, pretending to be 'balanced' is very fashionable on ph but it's officially chicken shlt too!
For the record I still think it's better looking than the V6 Exige. I like the way it revs over 8k too, unlike the new V6. Screaming small capacity engines seem right in small, light cars. There is a question mark over the gearchange quality but many here used to slag the old cars gearbox too.
But I have no problem at all believing it's considerably faster around a lap. For one thing the Evora S would be very hard to shake off in a Cup 260, yet the new Exige is 200kg lighter. The Exige is very similar to what the Evora GT racers weigh in at.
As usual people on here seem to want to see it fail. Again to my point about the myth of objective journalism, there's no way they won't be swayed by the crisis at Lotus when it comes to the reviews. I expect to see if anything more positive reviews than the car deserves. You can see the stories already, 'If this is the last hurrah for Lotus, what a way to go.' The trouble with this story is that it further erodes confidence in the company which will only drive people to the porsche showroom. There was no rush to buy TVRs near the end, despite glowing reviews they just went out with a whimper.
And bobo, pretending to be 'balanced' is very fashionable on ph but it's officially chicken shlt too!
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