DVLA - New owner of my write-off 111S - DK04 BJX - Warning!

DVLA - New owner of my write-off 111S - DK04 BJX - Warning!

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sl0wlane

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669 posts

198 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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Hi All,

Received a letter from the DVLA this morning stating that someone has applied for ownership of my old car... A Black Elise 111S, reg DK04 BJX

I wrote the car off in December last year - lamp post made a nice mess of the main beam that runs the length of the car, just behind the drivers door - as far as I am aware this cannot be repaired, so the car should have just been scrapped.

Just wanted to post on here to make it public and hopefully stop some poor soul picking up an unsafe vehicle that should not be returned to road use.

Perhaps they have replaced the chassis? (more likely they have replaced the rear clam or patched it up, covering up the chassis damage) But I don't think that tub / chassis itself can be repaired?

Cheers,

Adam.

scatty72

86 posts

198 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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might be worth putting on seloc. give them the heads up. im sure it will show its head.

sl0wlane

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669 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
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Aand.. now for sale on eBay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Elise-111s-2004-27...


Just to re-iterate, the rear drivers side chassis is bent and should not be on the road unless it's had a new chassis fitted, which should be identifiable by the chassis number.







Edited by sl0wlane on Wednesday 29th August 11:47

Pentoman

4,814 posts

268 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
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Interesting.
Would like to see what the repair looks like..

sl0wlane

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669 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
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I'll bet it looks great from the outside smile

bordseye

2,019 posts

197 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
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I would have thought the tub could be repaired by welding in new sections, but it cannot be a cheap job to do.

sl0wlane

Original Poster:

669 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Sadly not - the Elise chassis is such that it cannot really be repaired in that area with damage to that extent.

Also - Lotus themselves will not condone ANY chassis repair, the only option is to replace.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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bordseye said:
I would have thought the tub could be repaired by welding in new sections, but it cannot be a cheap job to do.
The advantages of bonding extrusions together is that you can use sections that can't be made by fabricating and you can use thinner wall sections as you don't have to worry about the heat affected zone of a weld being the weakest bit.

A welded repair would be weaker than the extruded part.

New chassis is the only repair I'd trust.

LotusTim

9 posts

150 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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It does state Cat D Nov 2011 in the description. At least that is made clear

AyBee

10,624 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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LotusTim said:
It does state Cat D Nov 2011 in the description. At least that is made clear
Cat D is the lightest damage - if what the OP says is true, I would expect a higher Cat. Definitely not a change of identity for a stolen car? Would like to see pictures of the damage/repair before going anywhere near it at a minimum.

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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AyBee said:
Cat D is the lightest damage - if what the OP says is true, I would expect a higher Cat. Definitely not a change of identity for a stolen car? Would like to see pictures of the damage/repair before going anywhere near it at a minimum.
reading the ad he does mention that pictures of the damage/repair are available...
so you pays your money and makes your choice as far as I am concerned.
I used to mess around with write offs a little, but to be honest its just not worth it anymore - hassles with insurance, damaged cars not being any cheaper than a private sale good nick one too.. so why bother..

simpo555

560 posts

169 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Problem is it looks the dogs b--locks in the picture and not everyone is going to look on here or seloc. Just have to hope that the repair is indeed up to scratch although me thinks otherwise.

m1nky

142 posts

212 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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hedgefinder said:
reading the ad he does mention that pictures of the damage/repair are available...
so you pays your money and makes your choice as far as I am concerned.
I used to mess around with write offs a little, but to be honest its just not worth it anymore - hassles with insurance, damaged cars not being any cheaper than a private sale good nick one too.. so why bother..
I agree. He's been honest about it being a cat D so if somebody wants to save money and buy a write off this is the gamble they take and they know it.

This highlights why I wouldn't buy a write off, without an extensive inspection you just never know what lurks beneath!

sl0wlane

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669 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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AyBee said:
Definitely not a change of identity for a stolen car? Would like to see pictures of the damage/repair before going anywhere near it at a minimum.
Defo my car - several distinguishing features including the little wrinkle on the alcantara on the steering wheel - stereo - exhaust.... Not to mention, someone on seloc requested the photos of the damage and he sent images of the crack below the fuel filler - but the image is cut off before you can see the chassis damage.

I think the insurance assessor is to blame a little - should defo not be a cat D.

400SE Dave

1,299 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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sl0wlane said:
Defo my car - several distinguishing features including the little wrinkle on the alcantara on the steering wheel - stereo - exhaust.... Not to mention, someone on seloc requested the photos of the damage and he sent images of the crack below the fuel filler - but the image is cut off before you can see the chassis damage.

I think the insurance assessor is to blame a little - should defo not be a cat D.
If you send a question on E-bay everyone can see the question and the reply so why not ask him if the chassis was repaired/replaced as you know it was bent???

Will be interesting to see the response.

Thorburn

2,406 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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400SE Dave said:
If you send a question on E-bay everyone can see the question and the reply so why not ask him if the chassis was repaired/replaced as you know it was bent???

Will be interesting to see the response.
It can only be seen if the seller answers and chooses to display the answer.

johnymac

300 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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The problem is that he needn't reply to the question and the way ebay works, if he doesn't reply to it - no one knows the question was ever asked. It would be helpful to all ebay bidders to see any and all questions asked, that way it would be very difficult to dodge the difficult ones. But life on ebay is not like that unfortunately.

Terminator X

15,897 posts

209 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Everyone knows that Cat D is used for when the dog has been sick on the carpet and the silly insurance co has written the car off in error, perish the thought that significant damage is ever covered up.

TX.

Stonie

140 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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sl0wlane, you could do a 'Report item' on the items' auction page, just opposite of the 'Description'.

m1nky

142 posts

212 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Stonie said:
sl0wlane, you could do a 'Report item' on the items' auction page, just opposite of the 'Description'.
Why? The seller is not doing anything illegal (though agreed, maybe immoral if not disclosing all the information about the repair). He is fully within his rights to sell the car and I believe he is only required by law to list the fact that it's an insurance write off. He can be forthcoming or not about any extra information and it is up to the potential buyer to make a decision to buy or not.

This just highlights to anyone contemplating buying a cat D or C to save a few quid the potential downfalls and possible dangers.