Living with an Elise

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burkeredh

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23 posts

173 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Hi guys, hope you are all well ?
I have recently started to think about buying my first Lotus Elise, my main concern is could this car be used as a daily drive ?
Would it live outside ok ( got a drive but no garage )
Many thanks for any advice given in advance,
Chris,

Sam_68

9,939 posts

252 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Yes, yes and yes.

... but you'll get a better response if you ask the mods to move your post to the Elise forum.

gjf764

1,310 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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S1 or s2? I'm on my second s2 and it's great

Thorburn

2,407 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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I used my S1 as a daily driver for 2 years and truth be told got a bit fed up with it. S2's, particularly later ones, are far more liveable day to day in terms of refinement and less prone to leaky roofs (my main gripe, mine leaked like a sieve).

car95

413 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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S2.5 here. No leaks. Great daily. Much more room in the boot than you think, too!

Petrol_fumes

219 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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I've got a very early S1 and while i love it - I wouldn't use it every day unless I lived somewhere sunny and there was a fun road between home and work. Basically it leaks, is a touch uncomfortable and loud.

Having been in stabdard later S1's and several S2's I think with the right set up they'd be a great daily drive.

Just make sure you get the right one and you'll love it

kambites

68,439 posts

228 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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My S2 is my only car, although the wife has a hatchback. It's never leaked, never broken down,... it's had the odd few niggling problems and obligatory head gasket failure but otherwise it's been just like any other car to run.

If you're going to keep it outside it WILL get damp inside so air conditioning is a very good idea for demisting purposes.

pthelazyjourno

1,850 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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30,000 miles in 2 years here, lives outside all year round, and DOESN'T get damp inside. At all. You're welcome to come and check when it's raining!! Or put your hands on the mat etc. Dry as a.. well dry thing.

Always started on the dot, never failed to get me to my destination, and doesn't leak.

I have spent a lot of money on modifications, however.

Brilliant fun. There's not a road car that I'd rather have. Personally, if you do go for an S2, I wouldn't bother with aircon - it will only break and cost a lot of money to fix at some point.

The pipes are known for corroding in the sills, among other issues, which is expensive to fix.



Edited by pthelazyjourno on Thursday 26th January 15:35

kambites

68,439 posts

228 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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pthelazyjourno said:
30,000 miles in 2 years here, lives outside all year round, and DOESN'T get damp inside. At all. You're welcome to come and check when it's raining!! Or put your hands on the mat etc. Dry as a.. well dry thing.
Interesting. I've never owned any car that hasn't got slightly damp inside when left outside. Certainly not so damp that you can feel it to touch things, but damp enough that the windows mist up on the inside.

pthelazyjourno

1,850 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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kambites said:
Interesting. I've never owned any car that hasn't got slightly damp inside when left outside. Certainly not so damp that you can feel it to touch things, but damp enough that the windows mist up on the inside.
My old MR2 suffered from condensation more and I stored that in the garage!!

I'm sure if there's a way of measuring these things, there would be some moisture content in the air - but then again I'd put good money on that being the case in a garaged car too, it's inevitable.

I never have to drive it with the windows open when it's raining though - it very rarely steams up. Which is a bloody good job really - as I'm sure you've noticed water drips straight into the car if you open the window even a fraction.

The only real times I find myself wiping the window is if **I'm** damp - if it's pissing it down and my coat is soaking etc, it steams up initially then.

But that's not an issue with the car - the moisture is obviously elsewhere. And once you get rid of the temperature difference, it quickly disappears.

In terms of air vents, I leave mine closed, they just blow crap over the dashboard and they're never really needed.

In all honesty, it's more watertight and stays drier than any of my previous cars - most admittedly with sunroofs.







Edited by pthelazyjourno on Thursday 26th January 18:09

pthelazyjourno

1,850 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Incidentally, it's not the standard roof - it's an Elise Parts one. It seems to be a lot tighter than the OEM one, and a slightly better design.

I did happen to take a photograph the last time it steamed up, as I was rather surprised by how bad it got. I was also soaked to the bone though, and the entire interior got drenched when I was packing for the trip - I even tried opening an air vent, for all the good it did.

This was on the Cat & Fiddle!



Thankfully it's never done that since - think that was about 18 months ago.

Edited by pthelazyjourno on Thursday 26th January 17:41

kambites

68,439 posts

228 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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pthelazyjourno said:
I'm sure if there's a way of measuring these things, there would be some moisture content in the air - but then again I'd put good money on that being the case in a garaged car too, it's inevitable.
This is why I have a dehumidifier in my garage. smile

Platinum

2,101 posts

230 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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It's terrible after a sharp frost, especially if it doesn't get any sun. Water beading all over inside of the screen. frown

Tends to be okay in the rain with the blower going.

pthelazyjourno

1,850 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Platinum said:
It's terrible after a sharp frost, especially if it doesn't get any sun. Water beading all over inside of the screen. frown

Tends to be okay in the rain with the blower going.
Do you have damp floor mats or anything like that?

ad111s

978 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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my s2 111s was my daily driver for 3yrs now a weekend toy and my first s2 was also my daily driver, both are fine except in the snow

Minismiles

33 posts

168 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record for this suggestion.

Have you considered the Europa S??

Mine is awesome and perfect for every day driving!!

Thorburn

2,407 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Minismiles said:
At the risk of sounding like a broken record for this suggestion.

Have you considered the Europa S??

Mine is awesome and perfect for every day driving!!
If the budget is tight the VX220 is worth considering too.

doggydave

329 posts

182 months

Friday 27th January 2012
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Thorburn said:
If the budget is tight the VX220 is worth considering too.

Really James, that is heresy.

Make sure you get a hardtop for the winter. What is your budget likely to be.

LBird

430 posts

219 months

Friday 27th January 2012
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I've had my S1 for over 13 years now and it's been my daily driver for most of that time. It's not ideal for long motorway trips because of the noise but I've only found the seat uncomfortable on one occasion when I was stuck in a traffic jam on the M1 for 5 hours. Mine has to live outside unfortunately and it DOES leak! On cold winter mornings there is often ice on the inside of the windscreen as well as the outside and on the inside of the roof (quite annoying when it melts and starts dripping on you). The locks freeze (having defrosted them and driven 10 miles to the station, they are often frozen again by the time I get there!) and the heater is barely adequate. I have had 2 HGFs and it seems to eat distributors.

After 13 years and nearly 200,000 miles, despite all the cr*p as described above, I LOVE it! I cannot conceive of a time that I won't love driving it and it's worth it, despite its inconvenient winter habits! thumbup

I'd say go for it - after all, if you decide you don't like it, you probably wouldn't have any difficulty selling it.


Edited to add: for about 9 years, my daily drive was a 3 hours, 130 miles roundtrip to and from work, not just the 20 miles to and from the station I do nowadays. I drove it in all weathers, including snow, on ungritted roads (not many luckily - it's not the ideal car for that but we managed!). It benefits from daily use - it had 3 months off once and loads of bits and pieces seized, failed etc. as a result. Whilst I'm driving it daily, it just goes on and on and on and......

Edited by LBird on Friday 27th January 10:54

Thorburn

2,407 posts

200 months

Friday 27th January 2012
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doggydave said:
Really James, that is heresy.

Make sure you get a hardtop for the winter. What is your budget likely to be.
Not saying I'll be rushing to swap my S1 in, but the VX220 has a lot of the S2 enhancements and are good value now.