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400SE Dave said:
But why?? You can get an SC car for around 23-24k, to buy an NA is 18k ish and then I would assume around 4k for the conversion. What will the Turbo car give you that an SC car won't??
Also, I would think that the factory car would ultimately have more takers at resale time.
just a different way of doing it...Also, I would think that the factory car would ultimately have more takers at resale time.
I agree the SC solution is good, just the power delivery of a turbo will be different, if that's a good or bad thing is up to you...
(also, turbo kit's can make more power on a stock engine than SC for the same stress level, EP's kit has shown north of 300Bhp in dyno testing, some 30 more than the Lotus 270 setup on the same engine)
Turbos ramp up power in the mid range in an exciting way (superchargers tend to be more linear), so they feel fast and sound cool but this usually comes at the expense of some throttle response versus a supercharger.
Not sure I'd bother turbo charging (or supercharging) my car but this vid did make me smile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkMo9206bfg
Not sure I'd bother turbo charging (or supercharging) my car but this vid did make me smile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkMo9206bfg
Scuffers said:
just a different way of doing it...
I agree the SC solution is good, just the power delivery of a turbo will be different, if that's a good or bad thing is up to you...
(also, turbo kit's can make more power on a stock engine than SC for the same stress level, EP's kit has shown north of 300Bhp in dyno testing, some 30 more than the Lotus 270 setup on the same engine)
Fair enough! Personally I love Turbo's, the noise/power delivery (of old school turbo engines at least...loads of lag!)etc etc but as the Toyota engine without any forced induction is quite top end, I like the way the SC smooths out and spreads the power delivery. Would the Turbo not exaggerate the relative lack of low down grunt of the Toyota engine?I agree the SC solution is good, just the power delivery of a turbo will be different, if that's a good or bad thing is up to you...
(also, turbo kit's can make more power on a stock engine than SC for the same stress level, EP's kit has shown north of 300Bhp in dyno testing, some 30 more than the Lotus 270 setup on the same engine)
Would be great fun to frive one though !
The Pits said:
Turbos ramp up power in the mid range in an exciting way (superchargers tend to be more linear), so they feel fast and sound cool but this usually comes at the expense of some throttle response versus a supercharger.
Totally agree with that although it would be interesting leaving a wet roundabout when the boost came in Anybody got any experience of this: Weltmeister?
6C4GTS said:
Anybody got any experience of this: Weltmeister?
from memory, they did one car, got a blaze of publicity, they it all turned to st...not sue they exist any more...
Saw this thread and thought of Weltmeister immediatley! Was gonig to get one done after that article in Evo, but ended up selling the Exige as it upset my girlfirend's back and got an EVO 9.
Within nine months, both the Girlfriend and Evo had gone! Wished I had kept the Exige and turbo'd it!
Within nine months, both the Girlfriend and Evo had gone! Wished I had kept the Exige and turbo'd it!
exigepete said:
Saw this thread and thought of Weltmeister immediatley! Was gonig to get one done after that article in Evo, but ended up selling the Exige as it upset my girlfirend's back and got an EVO 9.
Within nine months, both the Girlfriend and Evo had gone! Wished I had kept the Exige and turbo'd it!
I think I would call that a lucky escape:Within nine months, both the Girlfriend and Evo had gone! Wished I had kept the Exige and turbo'd it!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
followed by
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
specifically the Lotus Turbo kit:
http://arc.seloc.org/p/2787188
basically, it was Force Feed's kit from the states and it was just not a finished product, they bodged the ECU solution (as well as other stuff), many people tried to get it to work, don;t think anybody managed it without a complete re-design.
Edited by Scuffers on Thursday 18th August 08:19
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