Saab turbos?

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Mactac

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Thursday 15th May 2008
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Stupid question time bear with me here,

With the Saab, are there any unusual settings or controls adjustable by the driver,
that you don't find on any other car

(someones getting their leg pulled I suspect hence the question)

many thanks

Boosted LS1

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Thursday 15th May 2008
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Not while you are driving but you can do mods to the apc system to increase boost. Google would be your friend if you search there.

odyssey2200

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Thursday 15th May 2008
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:no:

Mactac

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Thursday 15th May 2008
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I'm hearing "its possible to switch it on & off while driving"


how might someone have misinterpreted some info in this way?

Prof Beard

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Friday 16th May 2008
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Some of the yanks fit manual boost controllers to Saabs, but you can do that to any turboed car - not to any great effect.

aeropilot

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Friday 16th May 2008
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Mactac said:
I'm hearing "its possible to switch it on & off while driving"
Switch what on and off......????

But, yes, whatever it is I think your leg is being pulled, there is nothing on a Saab that is adjustable by the driver, apart from the mirrors, ACC and the heated seats......tongue out

Mactac

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Friday 16th May 2008
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Some background:
Its some old hippy friends of ours buying it supposedly, and it was only the fact I mentioned the fact the turbo would certainly consume the worlds oil at a rate of knots that prompted the turbo apology, as in 'oh its a switchable thing'
Is it really?

aeropilot

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Friday 16th May 2008
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Mactac said:
Some background:
Its some old hippy friends of ours buying it supposedly, and it was only the fact I mentioned the fact the turbo would certainly consume the worlds oil at a rate of knots that prompted the turbo apology, as in 'oh its a switchable thing'
Is it really?
So funny.....laugh

The turbocharger on any production car, be it a Saab or any other make has never been 'switchable'.



Mactac

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Friday 16th May 2008
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I thought I'd just enquire in case the cunning Scandinavians had invented some frighful half-measure performance wise, to which I'd previously been unaware.

It seems not, thanks everyone you can relax now!

Prof Beard

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Friday 16th May 2008
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It is worth remembering the low pressure turbos(not the HOTs) were perfected by Saab specifically for economy purposes anyway.

Boosted LS1

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Friday 16th May 2008
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Prof Beard said:
It is worth remembering the low pressure turbos(not the HOTs) were perfected by Saab specifically for economy purposes anyway.
I've just bought one of those LPT's and I'm getting to like it quiote a lot. When time permits I'll put all my FPT parts onto it though smile

YamR1V64motion

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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this has to be the silliest thing ive heard recently, it would be a pretty good invention if it existed though, i give your friends that biggrin

Mactac

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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How could a selectable turbo evr work for one thing, and be of any practical use beyond some perceived 'green' setting. Go on I'm intrigued

YamR1V64motion

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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i have no idea how one would work, but it would be useful when you didnt need the power and wanted to save fuel.

Mactac

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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Certainly on the control front, the Hilux I've got, you can regulate its input a bit, (if the indication light in the clocks is anything at all to go by)

I'd sort of imagined If a car had been sold with a turbo included it probably needs it by design.

The idea of regulating aspects of your cars engine artificially sounds a bit like taking christmas tree lights out of their circuit, as it might help the power bill over the holidays a bit

Ie; not great

Prof Beard

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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YamR1V64motion said:
this has to be the silliest thing ive heard recently, it would be a pretty good invention if it existed though, i give your friends that biggrin
No it wouldn't! The WHOLE point of the LPT (Not the high pressure ones) Saab Turbo approach was that it gives BETTER fuel consumption than NOT having the the turbo. I suspect that even on the HOTs, you wouldn't save fuel by turning the turbo off (modifying the way drive would have a far bigger impact)

YamR1V64motion

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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Prof Beard said:
YamR1V64motion said:
this has to be the silliest thing ive heard recently, it would be a pretty good invention if it existed though, i give your friends that biggrin
No it wouldn't! The WHOLE point of the LPT (Not the high pressure ones) Saab Turbo approach was that it gives BETTER fuel consumption than NOT having the the turbo. I suspect that even on the HOTs, you wouldn't save fuel by turning the turbo off (modifying the way drive would have a far bigger impact)
my Aero seems to hate traffic fuel wise, as soon as your moving even only at town speeds its good for about 30MPG, stop start driving and it really is bad, still well worth it now its running properly though biggrin

Mactac

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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For what its worth they went for the Mondeo after all this afternoon.

NiceCupOfTea

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Sunday 18th May 2008
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Anybody who has ever driven a car with a blown turbo will know that a low compresion engine without a turbo is very very slow!

I think your friend was having his leg lifted - but there are various things that they *could* have meant - APC pots moved inside the car, manual boost controller inside car, switchable APCs, on the newer cars it might be possible to switch maps, or on an older car on engine management it's entirely possible it could have 2 or 3 engine maps...

mashhead

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Sunday 1st June 2008
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Mactac said:
Stupid question time bear with me here,

With the Saab, are there any unusual settings or controls adjustable by the driver,
that you don't find on any other car

(someones getting their leg pulled I suspect hence the question)

many thanks
First of all Mactac, i would call 999 if that bear is still with you. smile

Secondly, you can add a manual boost controller. I have one on mine, it gives you boost much earlier though the rev range, and you really do feel a marked improvement especially in the mid range excelleration. I was playing with a TVR Chimera just yesterday, and whilst he was quicker off the line than me, he couldnt shake me off 40MPH+ and I was gaining on him a tiny bit. Think it peed him off abit actually, i nodded to him but he was being a miserable bugger.

Only thing with the manual controllers, is you need to go a bit easy on the throttle to start. As the boost does spike on first spoolup, (which feels amazing if you get it right, too much and the boost protection will kick in and buck the car) so when you put your foot down, do it around 80% down, the boost will peak halfway into the red, and it really flies, then as the boost tails off after a second or so, then push you foot all the way down and it should boost 1/4 into the red and hold there, and before you know it your doing speeds that would make a policeman blush. Also in first gear, dont floor it cos you will end up with smoke all over the road, and a trip down to kwick fit. Be progressive and smooth.

Cant wait to get the car over to abbot racing.