9-5 Aero 2,3t or 9-5 3.0 tdi
Discussion
Depends on what your main needs are as to which is better.
What do you want..?
Performance, reasonable economy, reliability, man or auto...etc.,etc.
For example, 3.0 V6TDi is only available as a manual, has a reputation for expensive engine failures, but if you get a good un is a very torquey engine giving almost Aero performance plus gives reasonably good economy.
You can get them re-chipped, but not come across too many owners that have done this so far, probably because of their reliability problems.
Aero on the other hand is smooth, fast, torquey, and on a run will give pretty good fuel economy. They can be a tad thirsty around town if you have a heavy right foot. They also have the option of the auto gearbox, and in the case of the 5-speed auto from 2002 onwards is in some ways the better bet than the manual.
However, in terms of re-maps of Aero's, a remap only will net a bit extra torque, but they arn't good value for money as in standard form the Aero's engine hardware (intake pipe, exhaust and in particular intercooler) are already at their design limit, and a remap only will mean potentially high EGT's and intake temps which the ECU will then limit to protect the engine. This will be very noticable in higher summer temps and might make it feel like there's no extra at all.
But an Aero with better intercooler, bigger intake pipe, 3" exhaust downpipe, race cat and matched software......
What do you want..?
Performance, reasonable economy, reliability, man or auto...etc.,etc.
For example, 3.0 V6TDi is only available as a manual, has a reputation for expensive engine failures, but if you get a good un is a very torquey engine giving almost Aero performance plus gives reasonably good economy.
You can get them re-chipped, but not come across too many owners that have done this so far, probably because of their reliability problems.
Aero on the other hand is smooth, fast, torquey, and on a run will give pretty good fuel economy. They can be a tad thirsty around town if you have a heavy right foot. They also have the option of the auto gearbox, and in the case of the 5-speed auto from 2002 onwards is in some ways the better bet than the manual.
However, in terms of re-maps of Aero's, a remap only will net a bit extra torque, but they arn't good value for money as in standard form the Aero's engine hardware (intake pipe, exhaust and in particular intercooler) are already at their design limit, and a remap only will mean potentially high EGT's and intake temps which the ECU will then limit to protect the engine. This will be very noticable in higher summer temps and might make it feel like there's no extra at all.
But an Aero with better intercooler, bigger intake pipe, 3" exhaust downpipe, race cat and matched software......
ipsg.glf said:
What are the likely costs to get this extra performance from an Aero, do you think?
Unfortunately, that's the downside bit. Stage 3 from Maptun say, is about £1400 + fitting, but you'll need to add another couple of hundred for a bigger intake pipe and about £500-600 for the VERY important better intercooler.
Being in Teeside, you are a not a too unreasonable drive from Maptun's main UK agent up in East Lothian...see here:-
www.roseisle.com/maptun.htm
Or you have the similar Nordic option and travel down to Nottingham Saab.
See here:-
www.saabperformancecentre.co.uk/1.html
However, as mentioned by the other poster......I wouldn't want to run a Stage 3+ on a n Aero that had standard suspension....
But I disagree about factoring in a couple of hundred for suspension.....
Allow £700+ for suspension. Eibach Pro is the best option TBH or the factory approved Hirsch kit but that's more expensive still...but very good.
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