RE: Million-mile Saab heads for museum

RE: Million-mile Saab heads for museum

Tuesday 12th December 2006

Million-mile Saab heads for museum

Secret of longevity is thorough maintenance


Gilbert with his Saab 900SPG
Gilbert with his Saab 900SPG
A man has given his Saab to a museum after it clocked up a million miles.

US driver and travelling salesman Peter Gilbert bought his Saab 900 SPG for $29,000 after getting divorced 17 years ago, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. It racked up 1,001,385 miles and survived eight deer collisions, including one that punctured the rad, before it was parked for the last time at the Wisconsin Automotive Museum in Hartford.

Almost everything on the vehicle remained original equipment, apart from the bonnet and other parts replaced after the deer collisions. Ex-Brit Gilbert was also meticulous about maintenance, including regular oil changes with premium synthetic oil. He replaced the car's transmission at about 200,000 miles, but beyond that the engine was hardly touched.

"I couldn't kill that many deer with a gun," said Gilbert. "When I hit 600,000 miles, the car still wasn't burning oil. That's when I thought it could go a million miles." Saab then videoed the car when the odometer rolled over the one-million-mile mark at a Saab owners' convention in August.

Gilbert fell in love with Saabs when the cars were winning European road rallies in the 1960s. His 900 SPG once clocked 135 mph at the Road America race track in Elkhart Lake. "I was taking the lead in a race for a while," Gilbert said.

He said turning over the car's keys to the museum was like putting an elderly family member in a nursing home, but the frames had rusted badly sue to the salt on northerly Wisconsin's rural roads. Gilbert said there was nothing more to prove.

"But I know where the car is, and I can visit," he said. "And before I took her to the museum, I had a full detail job done. She was like a bride getting ready for her wedding. It was the first time that her carpets were thoroughly cleaned in 17 years."

Gilbert has since bought another Saab -- but with fewer miles on the clock.

Photo by Jeffrey Phelps

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mneame

Original Poster:

1,484 posts

218 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Could this be a bit of a case of "triggers broom"?

fair play to someone for keeping a car for that long though.

mulletmark

1,181 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Am I right in thinking that Volvo have a 1 million mile club for owners of cars which have been to the moon and back?

Although, this proves the importance of regular oil changes with good oil. A neighbour of mine has a B reg 316i which has done over 250,000 and still runs very sweetly indeed. He put's it down to changing the oil every 3000 miles.

Edited by mulletmark on Tuesday 12th December 13:00

Lord-Flasheart

6,632 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Great PR for Saab. Whats the world record? think its something similar held by a Volvo

GrahamG

1,091 posts

274 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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I seem to remember it as a P1800

iluvmercs

7,541 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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A true testament to Saab - I'm surprised Saab, themselves didn't buy the car (I assume they have a meseum???)

Website said:
Peter Gilbert's car
A 1989 Saab 900 SPG with 1,001,385 miles.

In 17 years the car used more than 600 quarts of synthetic Mobil-1 motor oil, which can travel significantly more miles between oil changes than regular oil.

In its time, the car burned two tanker-truck-loads of premium gasoline and averaged about 28 mpg.

It went through about 22 sets of tires, changed every 45,000 miles.

The transmission was replaced at about 200,000 miles, but the engine was largely untouched.

The engine head gasket was replaced three times because constant warming and cooling stretched it.


Over 17 year and a million miles, those costs are pretty darn amazing!

Darren

james f

841 posts

220 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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we got 250,000 km out of my mums old saad 900 turbo (then the turbo went and would have cost a pakect to replace)

andy jb

1,320 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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I can vouch for the build of these old style 900 true Saabs pre-GM, i doubt if the latest are built to the same standards & build durability. To think its engine was based on an old Triumph block too!

pounana

41 posts

282 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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I have a beautiful old saab 900 (A reg) which survived three crashes (one per brother, including being parked in a tree once). I handed the keys over to my dad remarking that it was doing pretty well for a 170,000 mile car: he reminded me that it had had the odo replaced at 65,000, so not unadjacent to a quarter of a million miles.

That said, my golf is knocking on 50,000 in 2 years, average 51.2 mpg (td pd170) and I reckon will see north of 100,000 miles without any dramas.

HeavySoul

9,656 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Think it was a P1800 Volvo that has over 3 million on the clock which is the record breaker.....

Graham Lunn

49 posts

246 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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I have just bought a 98 900 saab from ebay myself, 80000 miles and £700, spent £150 on a dealer service and the car runs so sweet. I can understand that these cars get to huge mileages, the interior is better than my 4 year old Renault!

aeropilot

36,539 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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I'm not surprised to see this on a 'proper' Saab, my old C900 felt like it was only just run-in when I sold it at 105,000m.

I am somewhat surprised that he's said only the gearbox had a rebuild at 200k, then preceided to do another 800k without any problems......scratchchin
I would have expected at least a gearbox rebuild needed every 250k at least on a C900T.
And I struggle to believe he did a million miles on the original turbocharger, that would be an amazing feat alone........eek

mark3man

244 posts

218 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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andy jb said:
I can vouch for the build of these old style 900 true Saabs pre-GM, i doubt if the latest are built to the same standards & build durability. To think its engine was based on an old Triumph block too!


Said to be half a Stag or a whole Dolomite - anyone really know which ? !
I had a very early 99 (with a freewheel) and a 900 and they both ran and ran and ran - around 200,000 no problem. GM parenting hasn't susteained that sheer quality which is a pity. Makers should understand that some of us don't need new utility wheels every 3 years if the old ones still turn well.

jerrycs

25 posts

248 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Far from SAAB buying it for their museum, if you follow the link to the local news you'll see that the execs visited for a ride in the car and some free PR and left without giving the guy so much as a T-shirt!

Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:54


Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:55

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

270 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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frazer guest said:
jerrycs said:
Far from SAAB buying it for their museum, if you follow the link to the local news you'll see that the execs visited for a ride in the car and some free PR and left without giving the guy so much as a T-shirt!

Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:54


Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:55


thats gratitued for loyal customers for you.


Tight gits

Bacchus

601 posts

291 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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mark3man said:
andy jb said:
I can vouch for the build of these old style 900 true Saabs pre-GM, i doubt if the latest are built to the same standards & build durability. To think its engine was based on an old Triumph block too!

[quote=mark3man]
Said to be half a Stag or a whole Dolomite - anyone really know which ? !


If I'm right Triumph sold the engine to Saab for their 99 an then 4 years later that engine appeared in an Dolomite? and even the Panther Rio had that engine... hurl

if it's right where does the 900 (pre GM) engine come from?

deva link

26,934 posts

252 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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I'm not sure that replacing the head gasket 3 times is 'hardly touching' the engine.

It seems that Mobil got some publicity out of this (there's a slogan after the amount of oil he used) so perhaps they ought to have given him a T shirt (if only to show Saab up).

busta

4,504 posts

240 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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frazer guest said:
jerrycs said:
Far from SAAB buying it for their museum, if you follow the link to the local news you'll see that the execs visited for a ride in the car and some free PR and left without giving the guy so much as a T-shirt!

Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:54


Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:55


thats gratitued for loyal customers for you.


Aside from the publicity, having the same car for 1million miles has hardly been lining Saab's pockets has it! And it sounds like he did most of the servicing himself.

MJK 24

5,652 posts

243 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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A friend had a VW Scirocco that had 489,000.

It was due to be retired at the 500,000 mark for a Corrado but was written off 11,000 miles too soon!

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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busta said:
frazer guest said:
jerrycs said:
Far from SAAB buying it for their museum, if you follow the link to the local news you'll see that the execs visited for a ride in the car and some free PR and left without giving the guy so much as a T-shirt!

Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:54


Edited by jerrycs on Tuesday 12th December 15:55


thats gratitued for loyal customers for you.


Aside from the publicity, having the same car for 1million miles has hardly been lining Saab's pockets has it! And it sounds like he did most of the servicing himself.


Exactly. Loyalty to Saab would have been buying a new car every 100,000 miles - ie. 9 more cars!

beasto

323 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Ho ho, my first car was an old (even then) Saab 96 with an 841cc engine the size of a bean tin.

2-stroke meant carting dozens of oil bottles in the semi-hatchback boot.

And one night, the oil finally filled and gobbed up the exhaust... and the car slowed to a crawl (like the banana trick in '24 hours').

Salisbury Plain to South London at walking pace -- my what a looong night that was!

Still, the 96 was g-r-e-a-t in the snow.