Mod-ding a 9-5
Discussion
Gents,
I've been thinking about the 9-5 with BSR that's in the PH classifieds at the moment. Does anyone have any experience of this modification? Do you know whether it's reliable/puts too much strain on the engine/destroys the fuel consumption?
The car has 148,000 on the clock already which is starting to sound a bit high to me especially considering it has been streched by the increased horsepower.
Any thoughts?
I've been thinking about the 9-5 with BSR that's in the PH classifieds at the moment. Does anyone have any experience of this modification? Do you know whether it's reliable/puts too much strain on the engine/destroys the fuel consumption?
The car has 148,000 on the clock already which is starting to sound a bit high to me especially considering it has been streched by the increased horsepower.
Any thoughts?
Any SAAB owner will tell you 148,000 is FA mileage. All you have to dowith a 9-5 is make sure the oil is changed regularly so you don't fall foul of the sludge issue.
Word on the street is that BSR figures tend to be optimistic to actual power increase.
Tuners like Hirsch, Maptun & Nordic etc tend to be closer to the mark.
Word on the street is that BSR figures tend to be optimistic to actual power increase.
Tuners like Hirsch, Maptun & Nordic etc tend to be closer to the mark.
well the 9-5
I am in the middle of fettling one at the mo
and I have never done one before
but I have done a bit of research
sludging is an issue and needs to be taken care of
regular oil changes (6k) and fully synthetic oil should take care of most probs
flush if you do not know the history and maybe drop the sump and clean the oil strainer
Modding is a little more involved than with the early trionic as it self adapts so any intake or exhaust mods will be adapted out
You really need to get into the software and the people mentioned are all good
My recomendation is Maptun as they did my 9000 and fredrik came over and personally mapped mine for 475 hp
For my own 9-5 I blagged a cheap ecu off fleabay (BSR) and we will see what happens
If the car comes together as expected I will get fredrik to give me a custom tune when he is over next
the limiting factor with tuning is the pistons
Take them much over 300 hp and the crown tends to fracture
solution is to use forged pistons or cheaper put a 9000 block from a '94 on as they are identical ,size wise ,but have better pistons
I am in the middle of fettling one at the mo
and I have never done one before
but I have done a bit of research
sludging is an issue and needs to be taken care of
regular oil changes (6k) and fully synthetic oil should take care of most probs
flush if you do not know the history and maybe drop the sump and clean the oil strainer
Modding is a little more involved than with the early trionic as it self adapts so any intake or exhaust mods will be adapted out
You really need to get into the software and the people mentioned are all good
My recomendation is Maptun as they did my 9000 and fredrik came over and personally mapped mine for 475 hp
For my own 9-5 I blagged a cheap ecu off fleabay (BSR) and we will see what happens
If the car comes together as expected I will get fredrik to give me a custom tune when he is over next
the limiting factor with tuning is the pistons
Take them much over 300 hp and the crown tends to fracture
solution is to use forged pistons or cheaper put a 9000 block from a '94 on as they are identical ,size wise ,but have better pistons
LongQ said:
Only got 107k on mine - can't wait for the running in period to finish ...
If only.
50K - new ignition cartridge
72k - new turbo
2 new batteries
113k - new engine (short) due to oil pump failure
141k (currently) gear box/clutch is on the way out
The SID is shafted
2 new shocks
Drivers door handle bust
A totally unjustified reputation for the latest models - had a 900 beforehand and it was solid. The new car doesn't come close
500hp! With front wheel drive?!
My old Corrado had 190hp, and you had to make sure of the surface before accelerating fully - how the hell do you keep yours on the road?!
Interesting stories from the rest of you - making me a little nervous about the decision... My Renault has only 54k on the clock at the moment, but I find the seat a little uncomfortable on long runs, and I fancy something with a bit more prestige, hence looking at 9-5s. Maybe I need to make the move across to a German brand? My old A6 was lovely...
My old Corrado had 190hp, and you had to make sure of the surface before accelerating fully - how the hell do you keep yours on the road?!
Interesting stories from the rest of you - making me a little nervous about the decision... My Renault has only 54k on the clock at the moment, but I find the seat a little uncomfortable on long runs, and I fancy something with a bit more prestige, hence looking at 9-5s. Maybe I need to make the move across to a German brand? My old A6 was lovely...
timwatsham said:
Interesting stories from the rest of you - making me a little nervous about the decision... My Renault has only 54k on the clock at the moment, but I find the seat a little uncomfortable on long runs, and I fancy something with a bit more prestige, hence looking at 9-5s.
Like any car from any manufacturer these days, there are good ones and lemons. I know a fellow 9-5 Aero owner with 74k miles on a 4 year car that's only had about 2 faults, mines coming up for 3 years old with 35k miles and a fault list as long as your arm, nothing serious as such, just anoying faults.....
I also have a friend that's on his third Audi as the previous 2 were nigh on faultless, but his new one is a complete dog and is forever in the dealers......
In defence of the 9-5 reliability, I'm coming up to 122k miles (2.3SE LPT Auto Sep 2000 car), the non service parts that have been replaced are:-
70k SID Display (under warranty)
91k DI cassette (under warranty)
96k Exhaust Back Box (genuine Saab part from eBay for £160+£10 fitting)
105k Battery (£60)
114k Rear Trailing Arm Bushes (£300)
Everything still works except the heated front seats, burning smell so pulled fuse and one of the alarm sensors is dicky
At 105k I purchased a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty (£1k claim limit) for £600 from www.warrantyworks.co.uk. That should see me covered from most big bills until I reckon about 190k
Compared with my previous Audi A8, the Saab is excellent in the reliability stakes
davidy
70k SID Display (under warranty)
91k DI cassette (under warranty)
96k Exhaust Back Box (genuine Saab part from eBay for £160+£10 fitting)
105k Battery (£60)
114k Rear Trailing Arm Bushes (£300)
Everything still works except the heated front seats, burning smell so pulled fuse and one of the alarm sensors is dicky
At 105k I purchased a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty (£1k claim limit) for £600 from www.warrantyworks.co.uk. That should see me covered from most big bills until I reckon about 190k
Compared with my previous Audi A8, the Saab is excellent in the reliability stakes
davidy
timwatsham said:
500hp! With front wheel drive?!
My old Corrado had 190hp, and you had to make sure of the surface before accelerating fully - how the hell do you keep yours on the road?!
Firm hand on the wheel mate...
seriously it is not a problem
The quaife lsd is a godsend and big sticky tyres help too
the basic suspension copes remarkably well with little torque steer
honestly
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