Mod-ding a 9-5

Mod-ding a 9-5

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timwatsham

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231 posts

257 months

Thursday 30th March 2006
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Gents,

I've been thinking about the 9-5 with BSR that's in the PH classifieds at the moment. Does anyone have any experience of this modification? Do you know whether it's reliable/puts too much strain on the engine/destroys the fuel consumption?

The car has 148,000 on the clock already which is starting to sound a bit high to me especially considering it has been streched by the increased horsepower.

Any thoughts?

si_j

254 posts

239 months

Thursday 30th March 2006
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Any SAAB owner will tell you 148,000 is FA mileage. All you have to dowith a 9-5 is make sure the oil is changed regularly so you don't fall foul of the sludge issue.
Word on the street is that BSR figures tend to be optimistic to actual power increase.
Tuners like Hirsch, Maptun & Nordic etc tend to be closer to the mark.

LongQ

13,864 posts

240 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Only got 107k on mine - can't wait for the running in period to finish ...

You could contact Matt_FP for his opinion. Or Ylee coyote

>> Edited by LongQ on Friday 31st March 00:04

aeropilot

36,541 posts

234 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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I wouldn't want a Saab that had BSR software....

I'd be OK with Hirsch, Nordic or Maptun, and maybe SQR aswell. Any problems with it and it seems BSR don't want to know and direct you to whoever supplied it, which may be a problem as it wasn't you that bought the software.?

Saabyfox

2,236 posts

226 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Would second Aeropilots opinion.
Hirsch, Maptun, Nordic are superb.
Trionic is a seriously complex Engine management system, best left to the experts

ylee coyote

420 posts

243 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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well the 9-5

I am in the middle of fettling one at the mo
and I have never done one before

but I have done a bit of research

sludging is an issue and needs to be taken care of
regular oil changes (6k) and fully synthetic oil should take care of most probs
flush if you do not know the history and maybe drop the sump and clean the oil strainer

Modding is a little more involved than with the early trionic as it self adapts so any intake or exhaust mods will be adapted out
You really need to get into the software and the people mentioned are all good

My recomendation is Maptun as they did my 9000 and fredrik came over and personally mapped mine for 475 hp

For my own 9-5 I blagged a cheap ecu off fleabay (BSR) and we will see what happens
If the car comes together as expected I will get fredrik to give me a custom tune when he is over next

the limiting factor with tuning is the pistons
Take them much over 300 hp and the crown tends to fracture
solution is to use forged pistons or cheaper put a 9000 block from a '94 on as they are identical ,size wise ,but have better pistons


dodgyviper

1,200 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st April 2006
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LongQ said:
Only got 107k on mine - can't wait for the running in period to finish ...


If only.

50K - new ignition cartridge
72k - new turbo
2 new batteries
113k - new engine (short) due to oil pump failure
141k (currently) gear box/clutch is on the way out

The SID is shafted
2 new shocks
Drivers door handle bust

A totally unjustified reputation for the latest models - had a 900 beforehand and it was solid. The new car doesn't come close

timwatsham

Original Poster:

231 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd April 2006
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500hp! With front wheel drive?!

My old Corrado had 190hp, and you had to make sure of the surface before accelerating fully - how the hell do you keep yours on the road?!

Interesting stories from the rest of you - making me a little nervous about the decision... My Renault has only 54k on the clock at the moment, but I find the seat a little uncomfortable on long runs, and I fancy something with a bit more prestige, hence looking at 9-5s. Maybe I need to make the move across to a German brand? My old A6 was lovely...

aeropilot

36,541 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd April 2006
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timwatsham said:
Interesting stories from the rest of you - making me a little nervous about the decision... My Renault has only 54k on the clock at the moment, but I find the seat a little uncomfortable on long runs, and I fancy something with a bit more prestige, hence looking at 9-5s.


Like any car from any manufacturer these days, there are good ones and lemons. I know a fellow 9-5 Aero owner with 74k miles on a 4 year car that's only had about 2 faults, mines coming up for 3 years old with 35k miles and a fault list as long as your arm, nothing serious as such, just anoying faults.....

I also have a friend that's on his third Audi as the previous 2 were nigh on faultless, but his new one is a complete dog and is forever in the dealers......

davidy

4,474 posts

291 months

Monday 3rd April 2006
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In defence of the 9-5 reliability, I'm coming up to 122k miles (2.3SE LPT Auto Sep 2000 car), the non service parts that have been replaced are:-

70k SID Display (under warranty)
91k DI cassette (under warranty)
96k Exhaust Back Box (genuine Saab part from eBay for £160+£10 fitting)
105k Battery (£60)
114k Rear Trailing Arm Bushes (£300)

Everything still works except the heated front seats, burning smell so pulled fuse and one of the alarm sensors is dicky

At 105k I purchased a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty (£1k claim limit) for £600 from www.warrantyworks.co.uk. That should see me covered from most big bills until I reckon about 190k

Compared with my previous Audi A8, the Saab is excellent in the reliability stakes

davidy

ylee coyote

420 posts

243 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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timwatsham said:
500hp! With front wheel drive?!

My old Corrado had 190hp, and you had to make sure of the surface before accelerating fully - how the hell do you keep yours on the road?!


Firm hand on the wheel mate...

seriously it is not a problem
The quaife lsd is a godsend and big sticky tyres help too
the basic suspension copes remarkably well with little torque steer
honestly

timwatsham

Original Poster:

231 posts

257 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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I'm impressed...

That's the same diff that Evo have put into their Hyundi Coupe isn't it? They are reporting good things too...