9-5 Aero; Coolant sensor

9-5 Aero; Coolant sensor

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Mr E

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22,113 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th December 2012
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Sarah had this last night.
Driving home, everything normal. Temp sensor just drops to zero and the CEL comes on.

CEL still on this morning. Heaters blow hot air.

I'm assuming coolant sensor rather than thermostat? Anything else I should check?

FFSport

425 posts

145 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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I can't think of anything else it could be other than a sensor or a thermostat.
Bit of a puzzling one since it's still popping out hot air.

JCW

905 posts

214 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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Funnily enough, I just bought my wife the same car and looking at the dip stick it looked like the dreaded head gasket mayonnaise but was convinced that it was due to the shape of dipstick collecting moisture.

Fast forward to Wednesday and the CEL lit up, just as the OPs, and having checked the dipstick which looked considerably worse I convinced myself the head gasket had gone despite no issues with the coolant (bubbling etc). The garage rang me up today telling me there was no problem with the head gasket and the CEL fault code was the coolant sensor but they were unable to find anyhing wrong with it, so had simply reset it.

Possibly an issue related to the recent cold temperatures?

Mr E

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22,113 posts

266 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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Possibly.

I now have a new coolant sensor and no CEL. Will see how she goes.

paul makin

56 posts

143 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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when the ecu interrogates the sensor it requires a response within 3 seconds - if no response (failed sensor),CEL will be triggered

if the ECU receives an improbable value it'll chuck a CEL, eg failed stat causing cool running despite time elapsed from start-up.


regards
paul

Mr E

Original Poster:

22,113 posts

266 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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paul makin said:
when the ecu interrogates the sensor it requires a response within 3 seconds - if no response (failed sensor),CEL will be triggered

if the ECU receives an improbable value it'll chuck a CEL, eg failed stat causing cool running despite time elapsed from start-up.
Thanks chap.

Coolant sensor replaced (and car serviced). Temp gauge worked day 1.
Day 2, temp worked on the way to the zoo, dropped to zero on the way back. No CEL. Heaters blowing hot air.
Day 3, worked again.

Under observation.

LesKellet

237 posts

226 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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There are two sensors - one for the ECU, one for the dashboard display.

BernB

53 posts

183 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I have a similar problem with my '02 9-5 aero. Temp gauge reading "zero", but no CEL light. Heaters working OK. It only seems to happen around this time of year.

Looking at the other Saab forums, it's likely a faulty thermostat causing it:

http://www.saablink.net/forum/car-problems-9-5-onl...

I guess the thermostat is sticking open, so the engine doesn't reach temperature as quickly as it should.

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I had exactly that problem with my 9-5 aero HOT last week. Sensor replaced and all fine, although I did catch temp gauge at zero yesterday morning after a half hour drive - no warning light though. Been reading fine since.

Mr E

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22,113 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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groomi said:
II did catch temp gauge at zero yesterday morning after a half hour drive - no warning light though. Been reading fine since.
Yup. Dropped to zero once with no cel. Been fine ever since. Still keeping my eyes on it.

In other news, heated seats proving more useful than I imagined this time of year and traction 'interesting' with all this water.

bint

4,664 posts

231 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Car in garage again for the sensor and engine mount knocking frown sensor wire was loose, sorted, mount not off the shelf in the uk, do awaiting delivery from Sweden.

Just as well it's snowy and I don't need to drive anywhere....

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Mine is booked back in for the thermostat to be changed, having already gone back last week for the sensor to be replaced again. frown

LesKellet

237 posts

226 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Did they replace the correct sensor?

tonyvid

9,875 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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bint said:
Car in garage again for the sensor and engine mount knocking frown sensor wire was loose, sorted, mount not off the shelf in the uk, do awaiting delivery from Sweden.

Just as well it's snowy and I don't need to drive anywhere....
Is this with a main dealer? Partsforsaabs have aftermarket ones in stock. As you say, in the snow it's best left at home as mine is hopeless on wide summer tyres!

bint

4,664 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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No it's an independent, ex Saab mechanic though.... To be honest, I don't generally need the car much as I walk most places, that and my neighbour with a 4x4 and the right tyres has been happy to help me out.

Aerate

280 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Had exactly this but no CEL light. Booting it home along a back road on a chilly night, gauge just dropped like a stone and was a bit twitchy the following day. Replacement sensor and thermostat £20 from Saab dealer. Mechanic across the road fitted them for £30. Everything cushti 2 weeks later.

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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That reminds me to update my situation. Car is fine after having the thermostat changed.

Mr E

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22,113 posts

266 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Sensor changed. Then it did it again (temp dropped to zero, engine light). Loose connection diagnosed and remedied.

Did it again on sunday. Accursed thing.

Prof Beard

6,669 posts

234 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Had this a couple of times (zero temp but no CEL) a few weeks back - not happened again since though

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Mr E said:
Sensor changed. Then it did it again (temp dropped to zero, engine light). Loose connection diagnosed and remedied.

Did it again on sunday. Accursed thing.
Get that thermostat changed.