9-5 1.9TiD Estate

9-5 1.9TiD Estate

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boolay

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1,552 posts

245 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Looking at changing our family Focus to a slightly more family friendly 9-5 Estate. There seems to be some good value for the 'Dame Edna' facelift at the minute.

How strong is this engine in the 9-5? Obviously it is a great Fiat unit, but is it pokey enough to haul the mass around? Also what mpg is typical?

Last one... how does the engine mate to the auto gearbox? or is it best sticking to a manual?

awg454

502 posts

223 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Hi I have a 9-3 with the 1.9 tdi150bhp auto which is the same engine as the 9-5 I have had no big problems engine or gearbox,I have had the alternator and egr valve replaced at around 90k,it is now around the 120k and still going strong,mpg is around 36 mpg,the manual cars get over 40 mpg.

John D9395

377 posts

215 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I had an 04 3.0 Tid from new for 120k miles. I had a loan 1.9 Tid on a couple of occasions whilst mine was in for a service, and I always felt them to be OK, but you had to work the engine hard, ie perhaps not quite as powerful as needed for such a heavy body?

I curently have a 9-3 with the 180 Ttid engine, which is probably what the mass of the 9-5 needs?


boolay

Original Poster:

1,552 posts

245 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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awg454 said:
Hi I have a 9-3 with the 1.9 tdi150bhp auto which is the same engine as the 9-5 I have had no big problems engine or gearbox,I have had the alternator and egr valve replaced at around 90k,it is now around the 120k and still going strong,mpg is around 36 mpg,the manual cars get over 40 mpg.
I am tempted by the auto but equally tempted by the better fuel economy you mention, so i'm guessing it might be wiser to reap the rewards of a leaner manual


John D9395 said:
I had an 04 3.0 Tid from new for 120k miles. I had a loan 1.9 Tid on a couple of occasions whilst mine was in for a service, and I always felt them to be OK, but you had to work the engine hard, ie perhaps not quite as powerful as needed for such a heavy body?

I curently have a 9-3 with the 180 Ttid engine, which is probably what the mass of the 9-5 needs?
Interesting. Although I don't necessarily want to tune the engine, I guess a tuning box would see an increase to somewhere around the 180 mark and could be a simple solution to the performance issue.

mgmrw

20,951 posts

164 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I've got a 2006MY 1.9TID (150) SAAB 9-3.


82500 miles done.

EGR been stripped, cleaned, modified.

Other than that, happy days smile

Pablo16v

2,221 posts

204 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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I’m currently running a 2004 3.0tid 9-5 estate. I get a fairly constant 38mpg, (manual box, not a particularly economical driver), so I’d guess the 1.9 should be very similar, given that it will need to be revved more and the fact that the 9-5 is quite a heavy car. I haven’t driven a 1.9tid but based on my experience running the 180bhp V6, 150bhp should feel fine, not fast by any means but certainly adequate enough, and if a few months down the line you feel it’s too slow then look at fitting a tuning box. I think the extra 30-40bhp would make a noticeable difference.

Seeker UK

1,443 posts

165 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Having had a succession of >2.0L 5 and 6 pot cars, I was surprised at how good the 1.9TiD (150) is. It's certainly not as refined as a BMW / MB 6 pot at idle and is a bit slow off the mark but the 0-60 figure is only half the story from 30-70 it pulls like a train.

mgmrw

20,951 posts

164 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Seeker UK said:
Having had a succession of >2.0L 5 and 6 pot cars, I was surprised at how good the 1.9TiD (150) is. It's certainly not as refined as a BMW / MB 6 pot at idle and is a bit slow off the mark but the 0-60 figure is only half the story from 30-70 it pulls like a train.
yes

1st gear is useless for anything other than a slow start.

The way the 150 is mapped aswell means that it's quite laggy.


BUT as you say, 30mph+ (all the way to well over the lepton area) is hugely impressive, and can leave some hot hatches etc looking mildly perplexed

Petemate

1,674 posts

198 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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mgmrw said:
BUT as you say, 30mph+ (all the way to well over the lepton area) is hugely impressive, and can leave some hot hatches etc looking mildly perplexed
I can second that. On my Oxford-LHR commute there have been many hot hatch peeps more than mildly perplexed... smile

bakerstreet

4,822 posts

172 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Seeker UK said:
Having had a succession of >2.0L 5 and 6 pot cars, I was surprised at how good the 1.9TiD (150) is. It's certainly not as refined as a BMW / MB 6 pot at idle and is a bit slow off the mark but the 0-60 figure is only half the story from 30-70 it pulls like a train.
I have a 2005 9-3 TID 150 and I have had mine for just over 12k now and I agree with that statement. Bit slow off the mark, but I think some of that is gearing, but put your foot down and 50mph and it is very impressive.

Mine has been quite pricey in that 12k.

New intercooler and alternator, oil service and vacume pipe (£850)
New thermostat/housing - £150
New wiper arm linkage - £200

Car also needs cambelt and waterpump in the upcoming months and I know it will need tyres for the MOT!

For the record, I get anything from 39-43mpg

Prices on the 08> 93s are tumbling. Such a fantastic looking car. I think I will end up replacing my 93 with a newer one!! Aeros can be had from £5.5K and upwards!

Edited by bakerstreet on Saturday 7th January 10:14

mgmrw

20,951 posts

164 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Petemate said:
I can second that. On my Oxford-LHR commute there have been many hot hatch peeps more than mildly perplexed... smile
yes last week up a 5mile stretch of DC uphill, mine had a ensuing Focai ST owner looking baffled! Even got a wave of acknowledgement