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Hi superviggen !
There is a "find the cheapest gas station" page on "Der Spiegel" magazine site :
http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/0,1518,185826,0...
In german only, but simple :
on left dropdown select type of fuel, enter town on right side, and look.
By the way, expect some sniggles when telling germans about your car,
as "viggen" is pronounced like "ficken" which is german for farking.
Maybe you have not found this : http://www.germany-tourism.de/index_ENG.htm
Have a pleasant trip !
Benni
There is a "find the cheapest gas station" page on "Der Spiegel" magazine site :
http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/0,1518,185826,0...
In german only, but simple :
on left dropdown select type of fuel, enter town on right side, and look.
By the way, expect some sniggles when telling germans about your car,
as "viggen" is pronounced like "ficken" which is german for farking.
Maybe you have not found this : http://www.germany-tourism.de/index_ENG.htm
Have a pleasant trip !
Benni
Superviggen
If you're anywhere near a border, France is roughly 10cts cheaper on all grades than Germany, and Switzerland is up to 25% cheaper (but not Diseasel)! (Just saved €20 on a tank for my Porsche as I've only 5km to the petrolstation in CH!)
If you're in the Mosel area, Luxembourg has the cheapest in the EU!
If you're anywhere near a border, France is roughly 10cts cheaper on all grades than Germany, and Switzerland is up to 25% cheaper (but not Diseasel)! (Just saved €20 on a tank for my Porsche as I've only 5km to the petrolstation in CH!)
If you're in the Mosel area, Luxembourg has the cheapest in the EU!
Just remembered :
If you go from rhine to Schwarzwald,
don´t miss the A5 Autobahn between Frankfurter Kreuz
(cross between A5 and A3 near Frankfurt Airport)
and Darmstadt, almost 10 miles STRAIGHT, flat, 4 lanes, unrestricted...
You may try your old viking there, but don´t expect to make the track record,
it is held by Bernd Rosemeyer at 273mph, from 1938, before he crashed...
Going northbound, there is a "parking" layby holding his name,
and a small memorial column is placed close by.
On Jan. 28, there are always fresh flowers, believed to be placed by Audi company,
because he raced an "Auto Union" for world record attempt.
http://www.autobahngeschichte.de/Seitenstreifen/De...
Regards,
Benni
If you go from rhine to Schwarzwald,
don´t miss the A5 Autobahn between Frankfurter Kreuz
(cross between A5 and A3 near Frankfurt Airport)
and Darmstadt, almost 10 miles STRAIGHT, flat, 4 lanes, unrestricted...
You may try your old viking there, but don´t expect to make the track record,
it is held by Bernd Rosemeyer at 273mph, from 1938, before he crashed...
Going northbound, there is a "parking" layby holding his name,
and a small memorial column is placed close by.
On Jan. 28, there are always fresh flowers, believed to be placed by Audi company,
because he raced an "Auto Union" for world record attempt.
http://www.autobahngeschichte.de/Seitenstreifen/De...
Regards,
Benni
thats great- i was thinking of going to heidelberg on the way down and can use that a5 down to there. are there any further derestricted stretches on that road southbound to heidelberg? it looks pretty straight all the way down on the map! hopefully i'll be on the road at a quiet time and have a clear run...
There you go :
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/index_e.html >Routes > A5
If you do not understand the plan,
look at "Legends", this is in english,
but not all pages of this site are.
There are more unrestricted stretches between Frankfurt and Heidelberg,
watch out at "Darmstädter Kreuz", do the 100 there,
or you may get an expensive souvenir photo.
Regards,
Benni
:http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/index_e.html >Routes > A5
If you do not understand the plan,
look at "Legends", this is in english,
but not all pages of this site are.
There are more unrestricted stretches between Frankfurt and Heidelberg,
watch out at "Darmstädter Kreuz", do the 100 there,
or you may get an expensive souvenir photo.
Regards,
Benni
...Benni said:
There are more unrestricted stretches between Frankfurt and Heidelberg, BUT ALL 2-Laners, watch out at "Darmstädter Kreuz", do the 100 there, or you may get an expensive souvenir photo.Regards,Benni
Superviggen, just for info, both the A5 and the parallel running A67 (left and right of the Rhine) are VERY congested at all times so don't expect to do any high speed motoring there. They are both only 2 laners and carry ALL the north/south truck traffic, thus all slowed to average 80-100kph in daytime.The A67 has an unrestricted stretch of 3 laner going south between Lorsch and the Viernheimer Dreieck (often speed traps at this Dreieck), the A5 is usually jampacked until you get to Hockenheim (where the A67/A61 join it), then there is a 3 laner down to Karlsruhe (beware of speed traps in limited section around Karlsruhe, usually small traps pale matt olive green near barriers) where you can get some decent speed going.
After Baden-Baden it drops down to a 2 laner again and agin only average 100-120kph possible due to traffic. Even at night due to the huge truck traffic, high speeds are now virtually impossible apart from the occasional burst.
Also due to greenslime and young girlies in motorised rollerskates and piggywaggons, doing 101.0001kph in their polluting diseasels, and refusing to get back into the inside lane after overtaking because possbly there is another truck within the next 100kms!
Cynical, Ja!!, damned ignorant barstewards won't let superior cars through, envy politics usually!
When you get down to the southern black forest (Freiburg and further south) there are many excellent hooning roads. You are welcome to PM me and I can give you some info....
NB Heidelberg is the overly commercialised centre of americanised Black Forest, recommend you AVOID IT! or spend max 1/2 day there, the real Black Forest is quiet with good roads, excellent food, good wines and few tourists... slightly biased as I live in the southern part!
thanks again for the info, im planning to go right down thru the black forest and back up again to see the majority of the sights.
my plan so far is to start up in the ahr valley, follow the rhine down, do a big loop of the black forest then follow the mosel.
the only problem is there is so much to see!
my plan so far is to start up in the ahr valley, follow the rhine down, do a big loop of the black forest then follow the mosel.
the only problem is there is so much to see!
I don't know what petrol your car takes but mine takes Super Plus (98) which means I try to avoid Aral and Shell petrol stations as they only have 100 octane and its quite expensive. Keep an eye out on the autobahn when looking for petrol stations as they'll normally tell you want franchise they are. Jet, Esso, Texaco and the smaller ones, i.e. BFT are the cheaper ones.
The A5 between Frankfurt and Darmstadt is great for wellying it but they've put 100 speed limits on both sides near Gräfenhausen for a couple of kilometers due to the road surface (apparently) being not too good. Watch out when going past the petrol station at Hockenheim as there is a speed limit there and police sit in big Beemers and Mercs at the exit point and I've seen them quite often pulling over cars.
Hockenheimring has a nice little motor racing museum and just further on, Sinsheim has a not too bad museum (you can't miss it as you drive pass, A football stadium one side of the motorway and Concorde the other. Watch out just before as they also tend to put speed cameras hidden behind the barriers there where the speed limit changes.)
The A5 between Frankfurt and Darmstadt is great for wellying it but they've put 100 speed limits on both sides near Gräfenhausen for a couple of kilometers due to the road surface (apparently) being not too good. Watch out when going past the petrol station at Hockenheim as there is a speed limit there and police sit in big Beemers and Mercs at the exit point and I've seen them quite often pulling over cars.
Hockenheimring has a nice little motor racing museum and just further on, Sinsheim has a not too bad museum (you can't miss it as you drive pass, A football stadium one side of the motorway and Concorde the other. Watch out just before as they also tend to put speed cameras hidden behind the barriers there where the speed limit changes.)
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