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DJRC

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23,563 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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It seems as if Jerry has heard about how frigging awesome I am and wish me to come and sort their st out.

So whats the renting situation like around Munich? Costs? German tax?
Obviously coming from the proper Nazis next door to Communist Germany its going to feel like a proper kick in the bks, but just how bad will it be? Similar to a UK shafting? What are the Commies like with the health taxing aswell? Is it a UK like National Insurance job that gets done PAYE or is it a private "tax" like the Swiss system?


NAS

2,547 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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DJRC said:
It seems as if Jerry has heard about how frigging awesome I am and wish me to come and sort their st out.

So whats the renting situation like around Munich? Costs? German tax?
Obviously coming from the proper Nazis next door to Communist Germany its going to feel like a proper kick in the bks, but just how bad will it be? Similar to a UK shafting? What are the Commies like with the health taxing aswell? Is it a UK like National Insurance job that gets done PAYE or is it a private "tax" like the Swiss system?
As a Dutchie I can't do much for you comparing German tax rates to UK ones but I can say something about health insurance and renting.

Munich isn't cheap if you want to live somewhere nice. It's probably the most expensive place in Germany.

Good link to get your feet wet:

http://www.immobilienscout24.de/de/finden/wohnen/w...

Health taxation can go a few separate ways but more than likely you'll get private health insurance from a Krankenkasse which will cost in between 300-400 euros per month for decent cover (man in his 30s), including insurance for your salary to be paid if you get sick. Your employer will most likely pay half of this amount for you.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/service/brutto-ne...

Here you can calculate what remains of your gross salary after taxation.

JMGS4

8,770 posts

277 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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With that attitude you'll be loved in Münich!!!

Rents on MUC are probably the highest in Germany, look for somewhere on the U-Bahn or S-Bahn within easy commuting time.
Health insurance: if you're only going for 6 months and paid over the minimum (€5700,- pm)then take out german private insurance (pay first, get the costs paid back)If you're going to be employed under a normal working contract, use the standard german health isurance...

DJRC

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23,563 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Had a decent look see now, seen all the Munich expensive stuff, etc and have to say fell over laughing...its cheap as chips ffs!! You can get appts for 600Euros a month!!!!!! Cant even get a room for that in Zurich!

NAS

2,547 posts

238 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I'd love to see a normal sized Munich apartment for 600 euros all in.

Although not without a stab-fest or wellies on.

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DJRC

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23,563 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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NAS said:
I'd love to see a normal sized Munich apartment for 600 euros all in.

Although not without a stab-fest or wellies on.

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You really dont understand how expensive Zurich is! A room usually the best part of 1000Euros a month, burger chips and a pint is about 25Euros.

Munich from I can see is different league cheap. The extra tax balances it back out though, but at least in commieland I can claim it all back against tax. No chance in Naziland.

NAS

2,547 posts

238 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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I've been in Zurich a few times, and I've felt the prices.

I moved to Frankfurt (which all Germans tell me is stupid expensive) from the Amsterdam area (which actually *is* expensive) so I know how you feel.

It's the most expensive place in Germany (together with Frankfurt) though.

DJRC

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23,563 posts

243 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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So the deed is done, the Contract signed and Notice given. The Deej is coming to Munich!

Right, are any other ph'ers around then or so I have to wait till you all invade like a bunch of drunken bums for the Oktoberfest pissup?

dcb

5,910 posts

272 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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DJRC said:
So the deed is done, the Contract signed and Notice given. The Deej is coming to Munich!

Right, are any other ph'ers around then or so I have to wait till you all invade like a bunch of drunken bums for the Oktoberfest pissup?
I think I might be in Munich again fairly soon.

Bagsy best seat at the Perlach Forschung Brauerei.

There will be the usual heavy sessions at the Hofbrau Haus
and the usual moping about in the BMW museum.

I'll also be checking out the Paulaner brewery tap on Hochstr.
Lovely place I hear, but I've not visited since before
the fire about ten years ago.

If wet, Deutsches Museum.



ClausB

43 posts

170 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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TVR regulars' table in munich:

Einkehr zur Fürstenrieder Schwaige
Forst-Kasten-Allee 114
81475 München

http://goo.gl/maps/hsa04

12/06/2013
10/07/2013
14/08/2013
(every 2nd Wednesday in a month), 18:00 - open end

Not many among them on PH afaik.

Claus

DJRC

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23,563 posts

243 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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We have a TVR bh session in Munich? Hurrah! Will be joining in that one I think smile Brits or Germans?

rolari

50 posts

136 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Every last Wednesday in the month there is a sportscar meeting at Gut Keferloh www.gut-keferloh.de

It's called "CP-Stammtisch München"

During the summer is always a lot of nice things for the eyes.
















DJRC

Original Poster:

23,563 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Wtf did someone do to the Red Head?

rolari

50 posts

136 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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This was the August-Event














Lord Pikey

3,257 posts

222 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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We have a 70m2 flat in Schwarbing and the flat is 1550€ warm rent

I have friends that pay as little as 700€ warm but thats for little more than a bedsit.

There are some new flats in a block in the Olympia park that have just gone on for rent. They are all inclusive but very small and about 1k€ a month.

Have a look on immobilienscout24.de


ps. If you want a beer on your arrival im sure i can persuade a few of my english/scottish mate to come out for a Radler or two. There is quite a large ex pat group out here most of the time.

Edited by Lord on Monday 12th August 14:02

Barry Sheene

1,524 posts

290 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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Been living/working there for 3.5 years now. Love it.

I share a flat with a 'merkin buddy in Schwabing, costs us 645E warm each/month ...Pokey little place too (2 bedrooms, kitchen, lounge balcony).....
but Munich is such a fantastic city to be out and about in, the size of the apartment doesn't really matter (it's just a place to sleep).


PS checkout this useful resource

ToyTown Munich

Anyone fancy a PH meet (other than the TVRDES meet) ? We should have enough by now.....


Edited by Barry Sheene on Monday 12th August 14:31

Lord Pikey

3,257 posts

222 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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Barry Sheene said:
Anyone fancy a PH meet (other than the TVRDES meet) ? We should have enough by now.....
There seems to be a few of us here now. I'd be up for a beer or two

Scoobman

450 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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I would be up for it.
I am brit in Schwabing too


Munich

1,071 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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To add my pennies worth about where to live in München etc…

Costs of apartments have increased dramatically over the past few years, so although it might not be on the high level of Zurich, it has become expensive relative to income. However, if you are to maintain your Zurich salary here in Munich then I think you will be laughing.

Tax is a lot higher vs. Switzerland but that does include healthcare. Like in the UK, you have either be public or private health insurance, but what is better than in the UK is that when you opt for private health insurance you do not have to contribute towards the public system – you pay for one or the other, but not both. If you intend on living in Munich for a fixed term then I would advise going for private (it’s cheaper) but if you intend on staying long term and growing old in Munich then I think public is better.

I have lived in Schwabing, Sendling, Haidhausen and currently live in Bogenhausen. Each area has its pros and cons but on balance I would say Sendling is the best. (although it is important to concentrate on the area between Lindwurmstraße and Implerstraße and not Sendling-Westpark.) Naturally Schwabing and Haidhausen are great if you are young and have no children, but there are a hell a lot of "Schickimicki" people. From my experience Sendling offers the best mix between atmosphere, nice people, local bars and restaurants and access to town.

I currently live about 50 meters from the Prinzregentenplatz U-bahn and pay 1,600€ warm rent per month for a 95m² Altbau appartment. Bogenhausen might not be the trendiest place to live, but it is by foot 5 minutes from the Isar and 25 minutes from town, and great if you have kids, which I do.

Munich

1,071 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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dcb said:
...I'll also be checking out the Paulaner brewery tap on Hochstr.
Lovely place I hear, but I've not visited since before
the fire about ten years ago....
You mean "Nockherberg". Great place, especially for the Starkbierfest, which is like the Oktoberfest but a lot smaller – and the bier is stronger.